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Just a little FYI regarding the FBI raid

It is important to remember, the presidential records act –the presented pretext for the document conflict– is not a criminal statute. An FBI raid cannot be predicated on a document conflict between the National Archives and a former president.
I don't know what your definition of "criminal statute" is, but the Presidential Records Act assigns ownership of presidential records, and via that definition, invokes other existing laws, violations of which are felonies.

It's like saying a speeding ticket is a civil fine. Sure, but failure to pay invokes criminal penalties.

but all that is moot. The Mar a Lago search warrant mentions potential violations of the Espionage Act. Even you would be forced to agree the Espionage Act is a criminal statute.

[quote]Obama has 30,000,000 pages of documents[/quote]
Duly processed and released by the National Archives to Obama's Presidential Library, [b][i]ROTFL!!![/i][/b]

Wow, you just swallow everything Trump spews without checking, [b]LOL!!![/b]
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues Still into self flagellation? Sounds about right for a nomind like you. Carry on son. You are proving your idiocy with every post. No one is reading them because they like your moloch priest Bribedem are braindead. But you carry on. Some one has to stand up for evil tyranny and if not you then who.
@hippyjoe1955 Recognize these lies??

How about these???
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues Oh look the malodorous excrement is posting again. Why do you remind me of fresh dog doo stuck to the bottom of my shoe? I mean its not like you have anything intelligent to offer and you stink the place up and we just can't get rid of you. Maybe a good pressure washer????
I think it's amusing that some people are not even mildly interested in what the FBI found.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@MistyCee So lets get this straight. The POTUS upon leaving office is given some documents for his own records by the US archives. It is up to the archivists to sift through the documents before giving them to the retiring President. The president has no say in what documents are given to him and TBH I doubt that many presidents even bother to look at them. However they are given by the records keeper. If there is an errant document in the box of documents then the archivist made a mistake and put it in the box. That completely aside the fact is the as president Trump declassified a whole trove to documents. As president that is his prerogative and not up for questioning. Every president before him has done the same and if tapioca brain Biden ever comes back from holiday he can do exactly the same. Once the documents are declassified then they are available to the president to take home with him if the archivist decides to give him the documents. However there is one thing that you have completely ignored. There was a 14 day window to execute it. Funny how there is such a coincidence though. The raid happened just as Trump's law suit against them is about to begin. Was the raid actually an attempt to remove evidence from the upcoming court case? Certainly has more plausibility than the idea that Trump has the secrets to the US nuclear arsenal and is selling the secrets in Kijji as seems to be the MSM explanation of the need for the raid.
@hippyjoe1955 This 14 day window stuff is new to me.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@MistyCee Its on the warrant. They waited several days before conducting the raid. I suspect it was to keep the secret service detail protecting the former POTUS from shooting the intruders on the spot. Some guys with guns show up waving a piece of paper and showing some sort of badge trying to break into the home of the former POTUS? Can anyone say 'fireworks'?
SW-User
Then you clearly know better than the attorney general. Best let him know, he'll be ever so grateful😉
SW-User
@hippyjoe1955 🤭 His base may have grown in resolve, but not in number. Most Americans think he's a crook. Fact. He's done :)
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@SW-User Actually from reports I am seeing a lot of mugwumps (those who sit on the fence with their mug on one side and their wump on the other) are coming down off the fence in support of Trump. People don't like a bully and the FBI/Garland/Biden have certainly shown they are nothing if not bullies.
SW-User
@hippyjoe1955 I'm sure you do :)
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
You , nor anybody else , has the faintest idea what their warrant was predicated on. That will not be known even if the warrant is released.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 So what was the real reason then ?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@RodionRomanovitch Ultimately the reason was the destruction of Trump's political career. They are that desperate and Trump poses a real danger to those who would do him harm.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 Trump is under investigation for violating the Espionage Act. The reason for the raid was to retrieve top secret materials likely to endanger national security. There was [b]no reason whatsoever[/b] for him to have this stuff at his home.
If that's the pretext.
TexChik · F
@MistyCee The libs shouldnt. They fear exposure and the loss of their illicit revenue streams, which Trump will do if elected again, so this is what they do.
@hippyjoe1955 See my other comment with a link. Even a "thin" warrant should list crimes, and if in fact, that's all there was to it, there's big problems.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@MistyCee Yes there are huge problems with raiding the home of a former president in an effort to keep him from running for office again. Some other person speculated that Trump has the Crossfire Hurricane declassified documents that reveal the corruption in the FBI and that is why the FBI concocted a reason to raid Trump's home. I honestly have no idea what the pretext was but it has played right into Trump's hand.
@hippyjoe1955's inventory of what was found: [quote]A few dinner menus and a letter from Obama. Oh and a napkin or two from some state dinner. Not much else.[/quote]

[quote]The affidavit used a handful of acronyms when describing the sensitivity of the documents that were recovered from Mar-a-Lago earlier in the year. This alphabet soup is probably confusing to most Americans, but national security experts have said it reveals the horrifying scope of this security breach.

Some of the classified documents that Trump brought with him from the White House to Mar-a-Lago contained markings for “HCS, FISA, ORCON, NOFORN, and SI,” according to the FBI affidavit.

“HCS” indicates that the material is about human sources, or spies, that often work with the CIA. “FISA” relates to court-ordered surveillance collecting foreign intelligence, including wiretaps. “ORCON” means the document is so sensitive that its originator must approve any request to share it. “NOFORN” means the material can’t be shared with any foreign entities, even allies, without permission. “SI,” short for Special Intelligence, relates to signals intercepts, which are typically handled by the National Security Agency.

These phrases confirm what many feared – that the documents that may have been illegally mishandled at Mar-a-Lago contained some of America’s most sensitive secrets. [/quote]

And what of the 48 EMPTY classified folders? Where in the world did THOSE documents wind up??


hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues Got a question for you. Were born this stupid or did you have to practice? Serious question.
@hippyjoe1955 [quote]A few dinner menus and a letter from Obama. Oh and a napkin or two from some state dinner. Not much else.[/quote] Were born this stupid or did you have to practice? Serious question.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
What is and what should be are often very different .
Jamesy · 36-40, M
Good to see you Joe
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RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Stereoguy Sorry , doesn't work like that.
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@Stereoguy [quote] If after two years you can't find anything just give it up.[/quote] Funny thing: Trump himself is still whining about Hillary's emails, [b]ROTFL!!![/b]

But you do have an underlyiing case. 6th Amendment speedy trial works out to a 5 year statute of limitations on federal crimes, meaning if charges aren't filed within 5 years of the act in question, then it's too late.

This has bearing on Durham's investigation because 5 years ago Comey had already been fired for 3 months. So Durham has missed the window to prosecute any behavior by Comey around the firing. And of course the window is well and truly closed on any opportunity to charge anything that happened during the Obama admin.

 
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