@MethDozer I’m sorry you are allergic to factual information but the good news is people like you are essential to the future success of the democrat party.
@redredred Nah, it is. Trust me I was there wat aftwr you were and it's still all capitailsm good, socialisn bad blah, blah , lah American exceptionalism.
You don't even know what socialism is. Just what your pundits tell you it is. You lost all bets when you ignorantly declared mercantilism to be close to socialism when it is in facf a strain of capitalism.
A ) work to make the nation a better place for all to live in; to facilitate an ever improving quality of life for those whose lives are spent in toil to lay the foundation for all business and works to be done be they private or be they public.
Or B ) not exist, because even the law of the fucking jungle would be more fair than what we have now. At least no one would be exempt from it.
@Eternity Personally I think the role of governement should be limited af. That's where I agree with Cons. Where I diverge radically is what limited means. Not so in powers but purpose. It's purpose should mostly be relegated as a mechanism to organize the people to manifest their collective wills and desires. Organizing their damands for unfrastructure, housing, defense, etc. A tool as opposed to a force..
@MethDozer i agree with the concept but the nature of government is to grow in strength. We started out with limited government and look where we are now.
All we can really do is determine what kind of government we have or if we have one at all.
The beast eats and it grows and all that can stop that is death.
@Longpatrol Possibly. Maybe not the entire industry but the mineral rights and crude mineral products should belong to the public. Private business can still be allowed to profit off the work of extraction and processing but only in the work and infrastructure aspect. In that case they should also be held to a contractural standard that benfits the public owners first and foremost over private profits and have ro pay an added value tax since they are profiting off processing the land and reaources thay should rightfully be owned by the people.
@MalteseFalconPunch georgism/geoism is the sort of "centrism" I wish was more talked about and conisdered over this predominate strand of fence sitting and flaccid appeasment that it currently encompasses.
@MalteseFalconPunch yeah, exactly. For me it falls into the political and cultural philopshies that deserve being listened to and acknowledged. It at least concerns itself with important and worthy problems of organizing a society. Housing rights, public land and mineral rights, public costs of land development, etc.
@LordShadowfire Yeah I hear you. It is often like that. To be fair I think all of us have our moments of making appeals to government intervention meanwhile knee jerking over the thought of government control. Not neccesarily in this case but just as part of general tendency of the public zeitgeist.
