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Keepitsimple · 51-55, F
MethDozer · M
@Lanyx Now isn't the time or place to tackle peoples addictions. A public health crisis that is dependent on.people staying calm in varying degrees of isolation isn't the time.not place to force people to collide with their addictions and vices. It's a recipe for disaster that moves the consequences of their bad lifestyle choices further o to the public.
FloorGenAdm · 51-55, M
MethDozer · M
It's bad idea. It ignores that people will go to extremes for a fix. Not all or even most but enough are addicted enough they will. This just creates a black market for both being solenoid of houses where the human to human contact and cleanliness cannot be regulated. That increase risk of transmission. This encourages people to bust more shorts and for some, they might even scrounge for used ciggies. That encourages transmission. It encourages alcoholics to find their drinking buddies who have the booze. This increases transmission. For a small percentage of alcoholics their addiction is great enough to cause physical impairment that leads to medical resources being diverted. That's a problem .
It makes sense on the surface since they aren't necessities ( despite the fact liquor is a disinfectant in an emergency), but in.practice it is ignoring the behaviours of people under stress who have a vice and aren't able to get it.
Very misguided and ignorant decision.
It makes sense on the surface since they aren't necessities ( despite the fact liquor is a disinfectant in an emergency), but in.practice it is ignoring the behaviours of people under stress who have a vice and aren't able to get it.
Very misguided and ignorant decision.
Peapod · 61-69, F
@MethDozer Best Answer here and well put. I think this is why the president is suddenly all concerned with the cartels. Isolation and quarantines only make addicts more antsy and they will get their drug by any means they can. Prohibition killed 10's of thousands of people because they tried to make their own bootleg concoction. Some of it was downright poisonous.
Mamapolo2016 · F
Wraithorn · 51-55, M
@Mamapolo2016 We need our grandparents who endured such things during the 2nd world war to give advice but they're dead and gone.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
Not clever.
In trying to save people the other measures may just heighten anxiety and tension for others.
Would make more sense to perhaps ration things like booze.
Cigarettes too if they really want to hit people with a 'health kick' idea. Assuming of course if they're going down that route they're also reducing pricing for fruit and veg.
In trying to save people the other measures may just heighten anxiety and tension for others.
Would make more sense to perhaps ration things like booze.
Cigarettes too if they really want to hit people with a 'health kick' idea. Assuming of course if they're going down that route they're also reducing pricing for fruit and veg.
Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
Wraithorn · 51-55, M
@Nyloncapes I can only imagine.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
@Wraithorn the liquor stores are open for business here but they either deliver or do curbside delivery after verifying their ages. The problem that I see is when some are at home not working that they can drink so
Much that they get violent on their spouses. I used to have a police scanner radio and noticed a pattern of that during periods of bad weather like ice storms or snow storms
Much that they get violent on their spouses. I used to have a police scanner radio and noticed a pattern of that during periods of bad weather like ice storms or snow storms
Wraithorn · 51-55, M
@TryingtoLava It is going to be interesting I think. We'll see what happens. I hope you have a nice day cousin. 🙂
Wraithorn · 51-55, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout I read about that and his previous shenanigans. I enjoy his disrespecting of the catholic church. On the other hand he pretty much disrespects everything.
I think he and I need to have a chat one day about his general behaviour. 🙂
I think he and I need to have a chat one day about his general behaviour. 🙂
Lochlee · 51-55, F
Wraithorn, I am sure there is some or other Shebeen still doing business. We both know the townships cannot be policed entirely. On the upside, a friend who works in casualties says the trauma cases are way down. On the downside, given our domestic violence problem/rape problem in South Africa, let us hope that after lockdown we won't see a rise in stats where that is concerned. Time will tell. Yes, he did leave it to Bheki Cele to announce.. clever move.
Lochlee · 51-55, F
@Wraithorn It is very strange. Let us hope this in not the spark in gunpowder and that we can pick up the pieces when lockdown ends, knowing that is when the second battle begins. But, yes, traumas are down because so many injuries and murders are caused by drunken brawls. So perhaps they said NONE (alcohol), knowing full well there would be SOME (Ramaphosa using some of the skills he learnt in his NUM days) 🙂. Time will tell.
Wraithorn · 51-55, M
@curiosi It does seem a bit heavy handed doesn't it ? Another reason I forgot to mention above is that the public health system cannot cope during normal times. So if too many people become infected then it might just collapse totally.
However, I'm not sure it's a good thing to stress people out by banning their addictions.
It's almost impossible to stop the virus spreading though when millions of people live in shacks built close together in densely populated townships.
It is going to spread whether or not people are drinking or smoking.
I'm no expert though. I just hope that Africans have some kind of immunity to Covid19 or...well I don't know what will happen. We'll see...
However, I'm not sure it's a good thing to stress people out by banning their addictions.
It's almost impossible to stop the virus spreading though when millions of people live in shacks built close together in densely populated townships.
It is going to spread whether or not people are drinking or smoking.
I'm no expert though. I just hope that Africans have some kind of immunity to Covid19 or...well I don't know what will happen. We'll see...
Frank52 · 70-79, M
Genuine addicts will do ANYTHING to get their fix up to and including hurting other people. To stop an alcoholic drinking instantly without medical help can kill them, as others have said. What will become apparent are the large number of people who will be in denial that they are addicted but will be forced to realise that they are not in control: a chemical controls them.
Wraithorn · 51-55, M
Piper · 61-69, F
Peapod · 61-69, F
I am worried that by banning these things, people will turn to other means that may be more harmful. Chronic alcoholics reach a point of needing to drink daily and unfortunately, likely don't have the means to get medical treatment. They may turn to very toxic alternatives like they did during prohibition.
KevinOfTheHill · 26-30, M
bijouxbroussard · F
Yeah, they’d have a tough time enforcing that here.
However, for now, pot dispensaries are only being allowed to serve people with scripts. Recreational customers can only purchase it via delivery service, which not all providers use. The idea is to limit the number of people at these facilities to those with medical needs.
However, for now, pot dispensaries are only being allowed to serve people with scripts. Recreational customers can only purchase it via delivery service, which not all providers use. The idea is to limit the number of people at these facilities to those with medical needs.