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This Should Have Been Sexy, but Instead I Regret It

I don't really want to post this. I debated not writing this at all. But I feel like it's important for me to get these feelings out.

A couple weeks ago I helped produce a women's festival in Michigan on the grounds of the old Michfest Land. Most attendees are lesbian, though not everyone. The energy of the group is amazing. I came back feeling refreshed and recharged. That part was amazing.


Here's the part I regret. There was an orgy space that was a five-minute walk away from the main festival grounds. No judgment on anyone who wanted to go, more power to them. But the thought of me attending felt yucky. I felt personally repulsed by the thought of me in that space.

One afternoon I attended a workshop on communication for relationships. It was held in the the community tent, not out in the sex space. But the workship was given by one of the organizers of the sex space. She did an amazing job. And after it was finished, I felt like I was being too judgmental with myself about the sex space.

So I decided to go to another workshop, this one held in the sex space itself. This next workshop was about consent and about rules of the space. There wasn't anything explicit happening during the workshop, it was just talking about the space itself. So I went. It made me feel a little more comfortable.

So I ended up attending the event that night for a few minutes. And then again then next night. Outside of a single pair of women who were using the space how it was intented, nothing much actually happened there. I had a lot of emotions about my decision to go.

I've spent this last week processing. One of my friends here tells me that I should be proud that I did it. I pushed myself out of my comfort zone. That's a good thing, right?

I'm not so sure. The more I think about it, the yuckier I feel. I wish I wouldn't have gone. I wish I wouldn't have shown my face or let anyone know that I was interested. (Though I was interested.) And despite the fact that the organizer of the space explicitly told me I was welcome there, I feel like I did NOT belong there. Sure, she welcomed me...but I know that she shouldn't have.

*Sigh*

Feelings suck because they don't come with words attached. I'm on SW this year trying to find the words to describe those feelings. And then hopefully work through them.

So here is my current best effort to find the words. I hate sexuality because I hate how it makes me feel out-of-control. I hate the extreme vulnerability of sensuality. And I hate the way that sex is a tool to exploit and dehumanize people. I wish I didn't have a sexuality at all. I wish I could snap my fingers and make it go away.

Admitting this to myself has been incredibly difficult. It is so much easier to project those feelings onto other people. I find myself saying things like, "I don't deserve to be a sexual person," or, "I am gross and I wouldn't want to subject another person to my body."

I'm pretty sure that what I actually mean is, "I'm terrified of losing control, putting myself out there to be rejected, and running the risk of exploiting other people. So I would rather not express my sexuality in any way that any other human sees, ever."

But I don't know for sure that those are the right words. The feelings I'm trying to describe are never that explicit. They are more just a gut level YUCK feeling that make me want to retreat into a hole and never come out.
Ontheroad · M
There is a lot packed into what you wrote and I'm sure so much more you can't express, but after reading this, and reading your responses to the remarks of others, I became... became what? How about quite amazed by the person you are ... do you have any idea how unusual it is for anyone to go that deep inside themselves, to actually analyse themselves so deeply and honestly? Wow, just wow!

Most don't care enough or are too fearful to even think of doing what you are doing. I would be chest beating, t-shirt wearing proud to be your friend. Be proud of yourself and for sure, do not be disappointed about who you are as a person.
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@Ontheroad Thank you for your gracious comment. I think you give me too much credit though. I'm not just doing difficult self-work. I'm miserable, and I'm sick of living miserable. I don't know why I have this mental block that I do, but it's tearing me up.

I'll get started on getting those t-shirts silkscreened. 😂 I would be happy to call you a friend as well.
Ontheroad · M
@ShadowSister I saw that part too and I hate it for you, but I see the brave you as well. I'm glad you are sharing yoru struggles and not keeping them - I know the loneliness of struggle makes it that much more difficult to battle... and I was absolutely honest about what I thought, so don't forget to send me a tee when you get them printed 😁.
GerOttman · 61-69, M
You are familiar with the concept of yin and yang I guess. Good-bad, right-wrong, do-do not... All tied up in knots together and more or less unable to be completely separated by mortal men, or lesbians... Did you enjoy the experience? Did it add to your knowledge of yourself and your own limits? Was there a part of your ind telling you it was wrong even as you enjoyed the freedom? Congratulations, it would appear that you are human! Be well, namaste
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@GerOttman I wish the answer to some of your questions was yes. But I feel like no, no, and no. I don't know, I just feel regret. Not moral regret. More like a disappointment about who I am as a person.
GerOttman · 61-69, M
@ShadowSister it sounds like this was an intense experience and those can take some time to percolate. give yourself some space and let your emotions work themselves out.
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@GerOttman Thanks. This post is part of the percolation process. :)
DogMan · 61-69, M
I imagine the yucky part was mostly the men. I had a girlfriend who lived with a gay guy,
I'm not an anti gay guy, but gay sex between men is disgusting to me. But hey, whatever
they want to do. One night my girlfriend got home late, and witnessed first hand two of
her room mates friends on her living room floor, in full mount, doing the deed. needless
to say, she freaked out, and verbally attacked them, they in turn physically attacked her,
and gave her a black eye and busted lip. I won't go into detail what I did in response, but
the police were called on me. Pro-gay heterosexuals do not really know what goes on
in the gay MAN community. I have read, and heard about the things that go on in Gay
bars between men, with multiple partners in the same night. It is not for anyone with
a weak stomach. You are not wrong feeling the way you did. Most people that are
gay friendly, have not witnessed what promiscuous gay men do. It is also disgusting to
monogamous gay men. My gay neighbors told me that they stay far away from places
that where that goes on.
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@DogMan I'm not following. The event I wrote about was exclusively women.
DogMan · 61-69, M
@ShadowSister Oh, sorry. good thing. If men had been doing that stuff together it would
have been much worse.
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Freeranger · M
The poet Robert Frost may have spoken here in , The Road Not Taken. If we believe that, then as we understand, poetry contains many turns.....

Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;

Choices are always a matter of conscience.....
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@Freeranger I actually had a long meditation about something similar while I was taking a walk through the woods after that second workshop. I have spent a lot of my life asking myself which path I'm "supposed to" take. As if, as long as I pick the correct road, everything is going to work out perfect. And if everything doesn't work out perfect, I must have taken the wrong road. But that's not how life works. There is no "supposed to." We do the best we can. We follow our hearts and try to live a good life. The universe never causes all the planets to align for us, nor does it conspire against us.

This was a good reminder. Thank you.
Freeranger · M
@ShadowSister
Evil others skilled in the arts of control are capable of creating small universes that appear legit. Witness a Jim Jones. I'm not sure why, but it's never been lost on me that the weak-minded not infrequently, gravitate toward false lights. Hooray for mums and dads that raised grounded children capable of discernment.
I leave it there, and thanks for a reasoned response.
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
I guess I can't imagine ever being in that situation. I would want some kind of connection with my partner(s) and definite proof that I wasn't going to get sick, plus some level of comfort that it wasn't going to come back to haunt me. As I'm not one of the young beautiful people I'll never need worry about it.
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@Tastyfrzz Thank you for commenting.

It was middle-aged lesbians on a camping trip. Believe me, most of us were not young, beautiful people lol. But yeah, the connection part is important. So many people on SW are all about nude this or sexy that. I find myself wishing I felt comfortable with the things they are all talking about. And the more I try, the more I feel out-of-place. I don't know.
Carla · 61-69, F
Maybe you need a connection in order to go there.

Btw...i attended several festivals on the land, in the day🙂
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@Carla You are a wise woman. Your words are very helpful in pointing me in the right direction.

First off, you're not wrong. We are only here for a minute. I do not want to waste seconds.

The bit about pain, I agree, pain is an experience too. But I feel like I am generally okay with pain. I am fine with rejection in other areas of my life. So this causes me to think that I'm probably not fully articulating the emotions I am feeling.

I don't think my emotions are primarily negative, by which I mean, I don't think I am just afraid of something. If it was, then I would expect those emotions to go away when I'm drinking and my inhibitions are stripped. However, when I drink, those emotions actually get stronger, not weaker. So yes, I crave intimacy. But I am also craving... what? I don't know what. Some opposite impulse that makes me NOT want sexuality.

Hmm, time to head back to my journaling and see if I can figure this out. I don't know why it is so difficult to pierce through these emotions. Thank you for your thoughtful engagement, Carla. It means the world!
Carla · 61-69, F
@ShadowSister we are all a work in progress, aren't we?
If you ever need an ear, i have two🙂
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@Carla Thank you. I may take you up on that.
reubles · 41-45, M
It's perfectly fine to have those conflicting feelings, because to be perfectly honest, sex is kinda gross, for some the grossness is a part of what they want and like, and for others it makes it unappealing, to each their own
Scribbles · 36-40, F
It takes strength and bravery to push your own boundaries. That must have been hard to do.

One question? What is a women's festival? You only.mentioned one or two things there. I'm just curious about the rest of the festival.
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@Scribbles It's a week-long music festival with camping. It's only women, or in this case women and non-binary folx. Mostly lesbians. I really like the energy.
I commend you on your actions, and your honesty
these are not the good old days,,, we must be extra careful
and NEVER be ashamed of our choices, no matter how judgy people get.
I still Like the five rules of consent
1) Awake, As in, not asleep, passed our or otherwise unconscious.

2) Aware, As in, not so drunk, drugged or exhausted, as to be unable to make good decisions.

3) Specific. You MAY do this, you may NOT do that.

4) Revocable. You might have said yes 100 times, but no can be invoked and revoked at any time with no reason given.

5) Enthusiastic. Yes must be genuine, "Oh Okay, go ahead" means, you have been pressured, and can't resist further.
Chickie · F
I hate the extreme vulnerability of sensuality. And I hate the way that sex is a tool to exploit and dehumanize people
one of the reasons why I am anti-sex, people also use it as a weapon too.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
What I'm hearing as I read this is that you allowed yourself to be convinced to do something you didn't really want to do, sexually, and it wasn't sexy for you.

In other words, it traumatized you.

This is normal. What you do with it next is up to you.
ShadowSister · 46-50, F
@LordShadowfire I think it's more that I have my guard up against something that I really wanted to do. So I convinced myself that it would be okay to do it. But now that I did, I feel like I put myself in a situation where people can judge me. I am worried that people will tell me I am ugly or too fat or I don't belong for any of a hundred different reasons. So if I judge myself before they do, they can't hurt me. Right? I feel frustrated with myself that I let myself get so vulnerable.

 
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