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Agree or Disagree?

People who don't take care of those in their lives who love and care for them, deserve exactly what they get when everyone finally gets tired of the BS and turns their back on them.

Had a discussion about this recently. The opinions were varied, which was surprising to me. My personal opinion - if you can't treat people with love and respect they deserve and/or if you step on people for your own personal gain never giving a thought to their love and loyalty - ending up alone and lonely is pretty much a given and well deserved. Thoughts?
Magenta · F
I mostly agree. I think emotional immaturity is a large part of it. Some people are so lacking, they can't sustain it. They have little bravery and fortitude. Emotionally stunted and/or selfishness. To keep pouring our love into them, is like drops in a barren desert.
antonioioio · 61-69, M
@Magenta the words of a very kind and understanding person ♥️
Magenta · F
@antonioioio Thank you. 🤗
LadyBronte · 56-60, F
@Magenta I have to agree.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
That is often dependant on the direction of the disrespect.

Ask who can be more disrespectful?

The majority disrespecting of a single person, or even the minority. Or the individual, or minority, disrespecting of the majority?

And why should a single person, or minority, not be disrespecting, if the majority is as well disrespecting?

Think of any controversial subject and apply those situations. It could be anything.

Not wearing a veil can be considered disrespectful, as a example. In both directions at the same time.

I tend to side with the minority over the majority. That to me is respect. The majority can be a million times louder disrespectful. And therefore that much more hurtful.

I could give a million different examples and it would make no difference. The majority is always louder. Yet are they truly right?

Go to Iran if you think otherwise, however. It's not the police, nor the government, that will speak the loudest.
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
I think selfishness has become such a norm that nobody bothers much about this truth. I am sure it is behind a lot of isolation and superficial relationships.
LadyBronte · 56-60, F
@PhilDeep I agree. And it seems to be getting worse.
Adogslife · 61-69, M
What you say is obviously true, but life doesn’t always follow that pattern. From your seat, I’d question the sanity of staying on a sinking ship. It’s a waste of your love and personal loyalty.

It’s a big world. Someone would kill to be the recipient of your love, sincerity and empathy. There’s more than one soulmate in life.

You’re never too old. 🙏🏻❤️

Worrying what happens to the person that doesn’t deserve your love is irrelevant. You’re just absorbing negative energy. All that does is harm your future.
LadyBronte · 56-60, F
@Adogslife Thanks.

I am on my own, perhaps not on paper, but as it matters. This was just a question that was being discussed, and I answered as I truly felt. I was surprised at the varied answers. I suspect some people have no point of reference, which - let's face it - is good for them, but leads them to be overly kind and generous where maybe they shouldn't be. Or that's my take on it. Perhaps one day I'll change my mind. Who knows.
Adogslife · 61-69, M
Emotional maturity, caring, empathy, selflessness and kindness are keys to a good relationship. However, they’re not typically innate skills. So much is learned and environmental. Some, and often men (though not exclusively), simply aren’t capable. They may learn. They may not.

Introspection isn’t a medicine often taken by the egocentric or narcissistic. Sometimes you just need to forgive and move on.

Carrying their burden is NEVER worth it.
Adogslife · 61-69, M
@LadyBronte I used to work there and commute in from southern CT. 5th Ave is a fun place to shop. I always try to stay in midtown in the heart of the city. There are great restaurants and great pizza shops for late night fun. It’s a great time.
LadyBronte · 56-60, F
@Adogslife If I ever manage to get there, I'll message you for all the "must see" places. Not sure I'd enjoy living there, but I think a vaca would be great.
Adogslife · 61-69, M
@LadyBronte Any time 😊
Steve42 · 56-60, M
I have a hard time not helping people. It may not be the help they seek, but it's usually help that could lead them out of the situation they are in. Or offer a reprieve from it.
LiliththeEternal · 22-25, F
@Steve42 Not everyone deserves help.
LadyBronte · 56-60, F
@Steve42 After repeated disrespect and callousness, I don’t feel so charitable anymore.
Ontheroad · M
Given that the person was of sound mind, then yes, I agree. I'm sure that there are a thousand what-ifs, but generally speaking, you reap what you sow.
LadyBronte · 56-60, F
@Ontheroad I agree.
antonioioio · 61-69, M
Your 100% right
My often said

Fool me once
Shame on you
Fool me twice
Shame on me ♥️
LadyBronte · 56-60, F
@antonioioio Your mother was wise.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
Depends upon the connection. If it is family, then a little more forgiveness is warranted. Or as a psychologist once advised my wife over struggles with her domineering mother: "you don't have to like her, but you do have to love her."
LadyBronte · 56-60, F
@dancingtongue Depending on the familiar circumstances, I'm not sure more forgiveness is warranted. Repeated abuse and disrespect can be life draining and soul damaging.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@LadyBronte True. But by the time you reach adulthood you should have found ways to deflect, ignore, or simply escape the abuse and disrespect. In my wife's case, I became the shield, absorbing the brunt of her mother's domineering ways by being the bad guy, whether it was moving away from close proximity, parenting decisions, whatever, so they could have peaceful reunions. And she did the same for me -- albeit a different approach -- to reduce conflict between my father and I. Basic points are (1) bullies get away with it when the bullied allow it to bother them and (2) in most cases you owe enough to parents and other family members to forgive their human frailties (short of outright physical abuse or endangerment)..
LadyBronte · 56-60, F
@dancingtongue Most people learn those skills early on, but it doesn't mean the perpetrator should escape karma, fate, ir whatever you'd like to call it. Nor does it mean sometimes we wouldn't like a ring side seat for the comeuppance.
Livingwell · 61-69, M
I agree with you. I hope you are doing well. 🤗
LadyBronte · 56-60, F
@Livingwell Thanks. I am doing ok.
Been on both ends hard too day .
Hmm I’m not sure because I’ve seen suffering on the faces of those who hurt me and I never enjoyed it … I pitied them deeply.

I actually felt sorry for them.

Their undoing is ultimately on their conscience and they have to live with it to the very end… they’re their own worst enemy in that sense. Fools.
LadyBronte · 56-60, F
@Frenchfries I agree....they are their own worst enemies but I find I still can't feel sorry for them either.
I hear you. I guess it definitely depends on how badly they hurt someone… cold and malice isn’t something I would pity either 😘@LadyBronte
How is this controversial?
LadyBronte · 56-60, F
@Bigfatmermaidsbottom I don't know that it is particularly controversial. In fact, I think it's a pretty black and white subject. Others however must not believe actions have consequences.
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@LadyBronte or don't want to believe it!
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LadyBronte · 56-60, F
@Stereoguy For the most part yes. There have been a few bumps.
LiliththeEternal · 22-25, F
I think bad people deserve bad outcomes.
LadyBronte · 56-60, F
@LiliththeEternal I think they deseve exactly the same pain as they have given others.

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