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Roundandroundwego · 61-69
It's war forever and the oil or gas Americans tell you to buy.
America is back.
The world is under american control.
America is back.
The world is under american control.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
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@SumKindaMunster I think the free market will fix this. Renewables are becoming cheaper so rapidly that it will soon make overwhelming economic sense to ditch fossil fuels. We have all the technologies right now to get almost 100% of out energy needs from renewables (long distance shipping and aviation remain problems); all we need to do is scale up. Additionally, phasing out government subsidies from fossil fuels and switching them to renewables is a no brainer...
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@SW-User Better hope so. The world governments are too busy blowing up Ukraine and Russia to care about this.
BTW, it was almost the same shit 20 years ago. Back then though we kept pushing for a world climate agreement, basically looking for concessions from the BRIC countries to not burn their environments down, like we did our own. After almost 20 years of this, they finally extracted some concessions during the 2016 Paris meeting, and then declared the problem solved.
Whoops! Looks like we already blew past those agreements and here we are in 2023 with the situation worse than it was before.
BTW, it was almost the same shit 20 years ago. Back then though we kept pushing for a world climate agreement, basically looking for concessions from the BRIC countries to not burn their environments down, like we did our own. After almost 20 years of this, they finally extracted some concessions during the 2016 Paris meeting, and then declared the problem solved.
Whoops! Looks like we already blew past those agreements and here we are in 2023 with the situation worse than it was before.
nacnud · 31-35, M
Always remember a lot of the lobbyists in oil & gas used to work in the tobacco industry promoting smoking. The change to renewables will happen but it will be driven by economics particularly as oil and gas supplies dwindle and costs soar. Grid scale storage and grid stability are the two main hurdles.
PSuss1 · 51-55, M
@SW-User difficult, with so many vested interests, but not insurmountable ...we'll get there eventually, as we have with Big Tobacco
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
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@HoraceGreenley No it wasn't. It was proved to you that it was real. You simply refused to believe it.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@SW-User You proved nothing and you are the one that refuses to believe.
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nacnud · 31-35, M
A change in Government will help but we need to move away from benchmarking prices to gas particularly when over 50% of the yearly electrical production is from renewable sources! Lobbying also has a big part to play in this as well.
plungesponge · 41-45, M
Yep and also more than half the energy we are currently using is wasted by dumb industrial practice or deliberately wasteful consumer products, because it keeps the "economy" going
AlchemyFox · 36-40, F
AlchemyFox · 36-40, F
@SW-User What if nobody voted?
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@AlchemyFox Then things would remain exactly as they are and the Conservatives would be in power forever.
AlchemyFox · 36-40, F
PSuss1 · 51-55, M
They know it, but powerful Big Energy lobbying/$$$ prevents them speaking up. Also disgusting (but not surprising) to see that the UK has the highest unit energy price IN THE WORLD (i.e. Ofgem are balls deep in the corruption).
This selfish, greedy, corrupt Government has so much to answer for.
This selfish, greedy, corrupt Government has so much to answer for.
