Conservative: We need to lower these oil prices! 😭 The government needs to do something NOWWWWW!

@DarkMoon Yeah I'd love it if more "small government" conservatives were against state-mandated lawns and bans on fucking duplexes lmao

@BlueVeins Yeah but creating these mega urban centers Hong Kong style with towers upon towers of living quarters as though they were bunk beds rising into the skies for the express purpose of efficiency with no regard for the value and beauty of wide open natural spaces or consideration to wildlife unless they are compressed into inhumane zoos for the entertainment of humans looking for a way they can pass the time from the drudgery of their urban living hell seems... well... extreme.

I do get the efficiency angle of your plan, but can't we leave some room for aesthetics... and the wildlife? Maybe the earth in its altered but closer to natural state isn't ideal for human convenience, but can't we make some allowances for those who don't think living on top of each other, body-to-body, isn't worth the price of that convenience and efficiency?

And, on a cold Artic night without power, can't I at least keep my clothes on?

@MarkPaul If we want to leave land available for wildlife, we need our human settlements to occupy less land area, and the best way to go about that is to build upward instead of outward. I agree that we need green spaces, but the way to do that while still being ecologically friendly is to just plant trees in the city and set aside areas as public parks. Most of the green space available in suburbia is just empty lawns, touted by landowners specifically for being nearly bereft of animal life (snakes are often cited, specifically). That's not to say they don't have their place, just... they're not better for animals & the environment than city parks are.

This is the kind of thing I want for us:



No.

@BlueVeins Yeah, but...

Well, Central Park is certainly a model and a tree here and there among compartments built on top of each other for vertical efficiency might address some of my concerns, but what happens when the power goes out and we have to climb 32 flights of stairs just to reach our cookie-cutter space? Do you really want to give up running on the wide-open road for a cement path shared with pedestrians, scooters, and skate-boards? Seriously, urbanizing the suburbs and rural fringes just seems excessive and extreme.

And, I think we need a conference to discuss your no-clothing policy on Artic nights with no power. Don't I even get a vote?