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Are Trumpists liars or idiots?


“I know this sounds idiotic, but I’m from New Jersey,” Hale-Cusanelli said, according to WUSA-TV. “In all my studies, I didn’t know there was an actual building that was called the ‘Capitol.’ It’s embarrassing and idiotic.”

https://www.courthousenews.com/former-us-army-reservist-found-guilty-in-jan-6-riot/
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
From your link:

"Hale-Cusanelli was arrested less than two weeks after the attack and has remained jailed since February 2021."

Whatever happened to the Constitutional guarantee of a speedy trial...? 🤔

"Prosecutors said Hale-Cusanelli openly espoused white supremacist and antisemitic ideology and wore an Adolf Hitler-style mustache to work. On his cellphone, investigators found photos of him with the distinctive mustache and combed-over hairstyle associated with the Nazi leader."

And nobody thought to give him a psychological examination, either before his arrest, while he still worked for the Navy (with a "secret" security clearance, no less) or during his (unconstitutional?) incarceration of over a year before his trial?! 😳
@Thinkerbell He was discharged prior to his arrest for a number of things, and actually appealed being held in jail to the DC Circuit which probably had something to do with him not getting a jury trial for so long.

None of the Hitler stuff made it to the jury, though, which he wanted.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@MistyCee

"He was discharged prior to his arrest for a number of things..."

According to your link, "He [Hale-Cusanelli] was discharged from the U.S. Army Reserves and barred from the Navy base after his arrest. You really should read your own stuff, Misty.

"... and actually appealed being held in jail to the DC Circuit which probably had something to do with him not getting a jury trial for so long."

And what does that mean? That the DC Circuit routinely denies defendants their Constitutional rights?
@Thinkerbell thanks for correcting me.
JRVanguard · 26-30, M
For reference I am also from New Jersey but was aware that there is an “actual” building called the Capitol so I don’t think this defense will hold up
@JRVanguard I hope not. Last I heard, Trumpism and "believe only me and don't listen to your eyes and ears" hasnt completely replaced public education in the Garden State, but who knows what will happen in 2024, when they have a chance to "make America Great Again" again.

I mean, isn't the idea of democracy and a public assembly a "liberal" idea?
Zaphod42 · 51-55, M
@Zaphod42 @ninalanyon

I'm actually thinking most of them are actually sociopaths, to be honest, whether they get away with lying themselves or just wish they could, but are afraid theyre too stupid to get away with it.

Most Trumpists obviously weren't willing to put their lives on the line to overthrow the government, but how many regret lying for themselves or their master or see anything wrong with hurting others as long as they themselves benefit?
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@MistyCee They might believe the lies they spread. Once you are inside a cult it's hard to evaluate the truth of such matters because looking for proof would be seen as evidence of wavering loyalty by one's peers.
@ninalanyon Makes sense. Maybe the next generation will be better at killing libs instead of just owning them and rejecting civilization.
Azlotto · M
Could be both...But so could be Bidenists.
Alfarrobas · 31-35, M
@Azlotto anybody can
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
@Azlotto Anyone who blindly worships a politician without acknowledging his or her faults is too stupid to vote.
Azlotto · M
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
Why not both?
Alfarrobas · 31-35, M
Yes. No. Maybe. Some are one thing, others are another.
In his case he is both.

Lock him up!
Steve42 · 56-60, M
Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M
Why choose?
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CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
I believe you will find they are a mixed bag.
@CorvusBlackthorne Probably right.
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@MarmeeMarch Have fun. Is that with butter or without?
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@MarmeeMarch He hasn't been sentenced yet.
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