I Am Pro Choice

@Primnproper Nor do I, and I’ve had more positive than negative experiences with men overall. I had a child with someone I loved very much and who was there for me every step of the way. But I’m not going to second-guess other women because I’m not in their shoes.

@bijouxbroussard unfortunately my experiences until now havent been positive but it has taught me well. I like to see fair and equal treatment across the board.

@Primnproper first of all, nobody is saying that a man doesn’t have any say. I said that men don’t have a final say on the matter. Those are the facts. You can’t argue with facts. I don’t hate men either. I’ve had terrible experiences with men. But still I know that there are good men out there. I’m related to them. I’m raising a soon to be man. All three of my pregnancies were complete hell. They were by three different men.

My first one, I was raped. Never told the jerk I was pregnant. My health was poor. I had an abortion.

My second one, I was abused by my child’s father. The pregnancy was planned. The dad threatened me. And even told me that if I left, he wouldn’t be a father to my child. Then said that if I went after him for child support, he would take my child and I never see her again.

My last pregnancy, I almost died. My pregnancy was high risk. I was living with the dad in an unhealthy environment. After having the baby, my health became worse.

I can’t and don’t want to get pregnant again. Mainly because my body is so damaged and my health is so poor, that if I end up pregnant again.

I can tell you that non of men in any of my situations, had rights. Non of them made the final decisions. I did. The doctors asked me all the questions. I made all the decisions. It was my body. Only my body was damaged in the end. Not their’s.

As for my two babies, I don’t keep their dads from seeing them. I feel that since both pregnancies were planned, they should take care of their responsibilities. Especially with the hell that I went through to have them.

@Wildflowerr And that’s who [b]you[/b] think should have a child instead. Your logic is, if a woman is promiscuous and irresponsible enough to get pregnant, she should be forced to have the child even if she doesn’t want it and has no incentive to take care of herself so that the child will be healthy in utero ?

@Wildflowerr That is crazy. Why would she be willing to raise a child, if she’s irresponsible ? Nobody forced her to have abortions, either—[b]that[/b] was also her choice. And it’s her business, unless you’re offering to adopt.

@Tatsumi Abortion is right if the woman and her doctor feels it is right. Which al goes back to my point.

@NaturalBeautyQueen Right. But anti-abortion people won't accept that reasoning. Ah well. Nevermind. I'm being tedious again.

@Tatsumi they won’t. I agree.

@SW-User true

The reality of it is, it is her body. She’s the patient, not him. She’s giving consent to end her pregnancy, not him. She’s the one who is talking to doctors regarding her options, not him. As long as she is pregnant, she’s in charge, not him. These are facts. What everybody else says, are just personal opinions, which literally makes it nobodies business. At the end of the day, her choice. If she wants to get the dad’s input, that is her decision. Not anybody else’s. Only she knows what is best, for her situation and her relationship with the dad, if she has a relationship with him.


@Mountainlady16

@Invocations I read alot of books

@Mountainlady16 That’s good honey, you should read some more.

@fazer1k I respect your opinion as well. And thank you for commenting respectfully.

@NaturalBeautyQueen I already answered you. Why can't you abort up until full term unless your life is in danger? Because at that stage abortion is considered wrong - some would say murder. If the woman's life is in danger then her life is prioritised over the life of the baby. An unborn child at some stage already has a right to live (or you don't have the right to abort). It amounts to the same thing. If you see things differently we'll just have to agree to disagree.

@fazer1k abortions are legal up until 20-24 weeks. During the time a fetus feels pain. During that time the fetus has developed into, what the laws consider a human being. But let’s face it, how many women do you know to have had abortions between 20-24 weeks? Most, almost all cases, the woman schedules for an abortion, the time she finds out she is pregnant, which is very early 1st trimester. A woman can have an abortion early in the pregnancy due to medical reasons. I know. I’ve had one because of that reason. But many times, the fetus doesn’t create problems until later in the pregnancy. Everything has a cut off. Abortion is no different. But the fact that a fetus feels pain between 20-24 weeks is the reason for the cut off, according to abortion laws. Before legalized abortions, women were having them later than 20-24 weeks. Cut offs are always good.

@MistyCee At the end of the day, who else can physically go and make the final call, as far as a pregnant woman’s body goes? No matter the reason. From personal experience and what I’ve seen, it’s never about ones religion. But about wanting to control women’s bodies. If people truly are pro life, then why does it seem the need for pregnancy prevention, get ignored? There are those who believe no birth control and no abortions, because it’s a “sin”. But reality of it is, nobody has control over what another person does. What if abortions became illegal again? I am willing to bet, that pro lifers wouldn’t stand outside back alleys. They didn’t care before.

Hope this answered your question.

When it comes to a woman’s right to choose, it’s not. Birth control and abortion may be two different things, based on what they are and how they are used. But as far as choice, at the end of the day, nobody has the right to tell a woman what to do, with her body, whether that is abortion or birth control.

As for the religion aspect of it, they’ve argued with telling a woman what to do with her body, with birth control, like they do with her pregnancy.

That is why I say that I am pro choice when it comes to birth control and abortion. And that is why my post fits in a pro choice group.

@fabbadmire99

@Poet123 where in the laws does it say that?

@NaturalBeautyQueen I do come from a different country. You must get your parent's permission first along with the child's father