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NerdyPotato · M
To everyone saying the vaccines have been rushed:
1) Most vaccines are based on a weakened version of the virus. This means labs have to obtain a live sample before they can start research. The covid-19 vaccine is based on genetic code that can be shared digitally, meaning all labs worldwide could start within hours after this was identified in China.
2) Clinical research usually happens in sequence, but due to the impact of social-economic impact of COVID-19, the various phases of clinical trials were held on parallel.
3) Money is a major limiting factor, but again due to the high impact, governments worldwide have made huge amounts of money available to speed up the process.
Due to these factors the development and testing went a lot quicker than for the average vaccine, but the steps are the same and these vaccines have to go through the same approval process as any other and need to hold up to the same standard.
Yes, vaccines have caused some long term problems in relatively rare cases in the past regardless and that may be the case with these ones too. But it is almost impossible to cause a variety of organ damage as the virus does in 70% of infections including healthy young people with mild symptoms.
1) Most vaccines are based on a weakened version of the virus. This means labs have to obtain a live sample before they can start research. The covid-19 vaccine is based on genetic code that can be shared digitally, meaning all labs worldwide could start within hours after this was identified in China.
2) Clinical research usually happens in sequence, but due to the impact of social-economic impact of COVID-19, the various phases of clinical trials were held on parallel.
3) Money is a major limiting factor, but again due to the high impact, governments worldwide have made huge amounts of money available to speed up the process.
Due to these factors the development and testing went a lot quicker than for the average vaccine, but the steps are the same and these vaccines have to go through the same approval process as any other and need to hold up to the same standard.
Yes, vaccines have caused some long term problems in relatively rare cases in the past regardless and that may be the case with these ones too. But it is almost impossible to cause a variety of organ damage as the virus does in 70% of infections including healthy young people with mild symptoms.
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NerdyPotato · M
@geoam1 for diseases with limited victims, the governments aren't chiming in (much).
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We have no basis on which to trust it or not trust it other than what we are told. So the question is really, do you trust scientists and your government not to deliberately put you in harm's way? This could perhaps be answered by asking what they might have to gain by harming a huge proportion of the population of taxpayers.
My view is, ultimately, that life is too short to get bogged down in nonsense conspiracies based on no physical access to any evidence. I will have the vaccine and I'm very sure that it will be no more harmful than any of the other various medications and even food products that we all consume every day.
My view is, ultimately, that life is too short to get bogged down in nonsense conspiracies based on no physical access to any evidence. I will have the vaccine and I'm very sure that it will be no more harmful than any of the other various medications and even food products that we all consume every day.
Elessar · 26-30, M
40k inoculations of the Pfizer's candidate, no severe side effects reported. In 40k cases of covid-19, how many are impaired, and how many die?
Which risk are you picking, <1:40000 or 1:200 ~ 1:50? That's the question.
And if you're concerned about long term still unknown side effects: are you sure the virus won't cause any? We know of long-covid already and we've been dealing with this for less than one year...
Which risk are you picking, <1:40000 or 1:200 ~ 1:50? That's the question.
And if you're concerned about long term still unknown side effects: are you sure the virus won't cause any? We know of long-covid already and we've been dealing with this for less than one year...
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bijouxbroussard · F
@Jill1990 We’d be taking something used to scrub floors. 😅
AmbivalentFriability · 26-30
bijouxbroussard · F
@AmbivalentFriability I suspect the usual delays have been less about safety, more about profit.
sassypants · 36-40, F
Beautifullyderanged · 36-40, F
maturedragon · 26-30, M
NerdyPotato · M
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Pfizer's vaccine has to be stored at -80 degrees celcius making it not viable.
NerdyPotato · M
@Pitchblue except for the last 4 days. International transport is a little tricky because few jumbojets are suitable, but once it is in the country, it is very well possible to get it from the airport into someone's arm within 4 days.
@NerdyPotato Do you have any idea how much it would cost to build facilities all over the country just to store the vaccine and get it out to a population as big as the US. Why did the CEO sell 60% of his stock before the vaccine came out? I wouldn't take that one.
NerdyPotato · M
@Pitchblue the USA is a big country, but also has a lot of airports. Getting the vaccine from the nearest airport to someone's arm really should be possible within 4 days in any western country.
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no but i'll take it if it means i can get back to living normally
empanadas · 31-35, M
@SW-User for some reason i thought of an old fat white guys saying that trying to go to Thailand
OnePatheticClown · 51-55, M
Onjy the one approved by comrade Putin
smileylovesgaming · 31-35, F
No I don't
No way!
bijouxbroussard · F
empanadas · 31-35, M
naw i would rather wait a few months or years