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This country should be ashamed

Numbers don’t lie, people do. The CoVid19 stats do not make sense.

America’s next protest should be about demanding the truth from health data centers
canlem · 70-79
Look at and listen to scientific evidence, NOT politicians !
canlem · 70-79
@newjaninev2 How lucky you all are to have flattened the curve and kept it under control, you live in such a beautiful country I hope to visit it again when this mess has settled down.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@canlem Yes, we’re still hoping for an Australasian bubble... we can be 'bubble buddies’! 😀
canlem · 70-79
@newjaninev2 Hey that would be great ! Maybe we can start a new trend ! I would certainly like to chat a bit more and find out what you like / dislike !
Listen to the Holy CDC.
1. Masks won't help you, don't bother.
2. Wear a mask.
3. Masks have to be N95 or they're worthless.
4. Wear anything over your face.
5. Masks become infected and can't be touched or they will not help.
6. We all must wear a mask.
7. Masks may actually make you more susceptible to getting sick.
8. Force everyone to wear a mask.

Folks, this isn't about health it's about control of the masses.
It's not a medical issue, it's a sheeple management project.
Mindful · 56-60, F
@SWisGoingWoke
Think back to Feb. and compare . The flu does not wipe out avnursinf community because of one nurse, nor would it exhause and kill men in 30s and 40s who ski for fun in Italy.

As of May 1, Remdisivir was granted emergency status to be used in hospital emergency rooms to treat COVID 19. It has an high success rate in assisting with recovery. I credit remdisicir with the success rate - 65%- (non deaths) but all hospitals should have access to this treatment. I’m not sure what it is... but the numbers are wacky.

Of course the masks and gloves work.Thats logical. The variables related to use of masks - ignorance- too great. Sustainability - impossible for masks.but in the off chance you are exposed within 14 days to someone with a virus, it’s better than no protection and the flip side of course is true. You have the virus? Please contain it by not spit talking everywhere and wear a mask.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Considering the complete lack of coordination in response to this (most response was state by state and highly variable) I would believe you are not getting complete data at all. The medical services are simply over whelmed and dead is dead. There will be homeless under bridges, single old folks in apartments. poor who hope to recover but are too afraid to seek treatment.
And you are right. The country should be ashamed.
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Mindful · 56-60, F
It’s me... there is.. too much data to discuss clearly with my little screen. @MalteseFalconPunch
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
When government gets into health care everything gets messed up.

This virus has been politicized to the point that actual live data by government sources is no longer valid. Totals on charts not given on tables of data is a government thing not medical!

Government controls that.

And if there are reasons for that data not to agree then "AFTER" the totals those reasons should be given. Not in some hard to find footnote!

Again, government is doing that as well!

So the medical establishment says one thing and the government and political hacks do and say another!

Who is fooling whom? Who is anyone to listen to? Government or healthcare system?

Who does anyone want to trust their life and their loved ones life to? 🤷‍♂️

Personally I go with the healthcare professionals!
Mindful · 56-60, F
Excellent. Well said. In the case of our very new country... that is very true. Little respect for truth. Only a wild hunt for power. At any cost.@DeWayfarer
The reason hospitals are reporting that their ICUs are full and overflowing is because they put EVERYONE who testes positive for China Virus and who is showing symptoms in isolation. Isolation in the ICU.

We are thinking that the ICU is where they only put the WORST cases, but it's not that way at all. They are putting ALL Chinese Virus cases in ICU if they test positive and show symptoms.

We went from "suppressing the curve" to keep the health-care system from being overwhelmed to "Zero infections."

Zero infections, no cases of Chinese Virus is insane! It's impossible and unattainable!

Our "medical experts" are trying to achieve something that is impossible to do...they want NO cases of Chinese Virus. That's crazy.
Mindful · 56-60, F
@SWisGoingWoke that is crazy. We’re doing okay, because we were shut down... we’re doing okay because we did a small partial reopening, slowing down again, the depending on case loads will reopen again ... it will be a turn on slow down, dance for a while. It’s difficult to do on a massive scale.
Yes if the hospitals are making money the will accept patients.
COVID 19. @newjaninev2
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@SWisGoingWoke During this covid-19 pandemic, my country had 1,543 confirmed cases, with 22 deaths.

We currently have [b]no[/b] covid-19 infections, and have not had any for 71 days

Obviously, it’s neither impossible nor unattainable

This was achieved by outstanding leadership, universal free healthcare, and a cohesive society (we call it our team of five million)

So, how are things in the States?
I think I agree with you, but in what way do they not make sense?
@Mindful Also, keep in mind that hospitals are being paid more $$$ when they have a China Virus case, so they are reporting anything that moves as being infected...sometimes twice. People that have dies in car wrecks are being reported as having died from China Virus.
@Mindful Why get tested if you are not sick? Because everyone around here is running around screaming how people are "asymptomatic" and even though you feel fine, you're not only sick, you're infecting everyone you walk past, like Typhoid Mary. It's not true.

People tend to see catching China Virus as being a death sentence. They act like it's equivalent to catching Ebola with a 90% death rate. It's not even as deadly as the common flu that goes around every year.

Does it make you feel like crap if it really hits you hard? Yes!
Does it really suck to die from it? Yes! But few do.

The best way forward is NOT to hide in our holes in the ground, but for everyone to catch it, and get over it, and develop herd immunity. Otherwise, we're just delaying the inevitable.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@SWisGoingWoke That makes the assumption that everyone enjoys the same normal health you do.

Why is that dangerous ?

Because this is[u] NOT[/u] the Flu !

Coronavirus causes breathing difficulties.
Now if you already have Emphysema; Asthma; Bronchitis; COPD; Lung cancer; Cystic Fibrosis; Pneumonia........ THAT'S when it's deadly !
That's why you need to follow protocols and keep everybody as safe as you can.
I want to be frank and tell you that I think that people want to concerned about COVID vut are currently concerned about about whether they are going to be sleeping under a tree.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Spoiledbrat As they really should be..😷
The same people who don’t believe it now, won’t believe it then.
SW-User
User41 · 36-40, M
I don’t disagree 🤷🏻‍♂️

 
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