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I Have a Question

Totally honest because I do wonder. So I always wondered why christians celebrate easter with bunnies and eggs or christmas with trees and Santa when all that stuff has pagan origins. I can understand why back in the day before information was pretty much instant I can understand. But these days it doesn't make sense. Especially when most christians will call everything satanic because it's pre-Christian but they'll do valentine's day and be all low key saturnallia.
So much to unpack there. For a start, none of it has pagan origins. Common misconception. The eggs come from orthodox, Easter bunny from Lutherans. Christians tree from Lutherans. Santa from orthodox. And valentine's from catholics.
Kazuya69 · 31-35, M
@Qwerty14 i did already like hours ago lol, anyway im done with talking about this . like i said your free to believe what you want.
@Kazuya69 Yeah I felt we came to a good stopping point. Was surprised it started up again lol
Kazuya69 · 31-35, M
@Qwerty14 lol same
My answer would be that religion does not exist beside or above a culture but in it.

I doubt many people ever think about Easter bunnies and colored eggs as fertility symbols. They're just fun. Same with Cupid and his bow. And don't forget Hallowe'en!

And, most Christians do not call everything satanic. Some do, but by no means all. Just the way some Muslims go to extremes, but not all.
Kazuya69 · 31-35, M
@Qwerty14 VERY yes, lol
@Kazuya69 I'm glad we agree on something. Tbh who cares where things started. Atm they're just fun excuses to eat too much and have a party. I feel anyone, theist or atheist, can get onboard with that
Kazuya69 · 31-35, M
@Qwerty14 Food brings us all together, Also I love to debate, and find other people willing to actually write out and state their side. I also have alot of respect for anyone who holds true to what they believe.
Quizzical · 46-50, M
It's easier to adopt ideas into a cult than try to stamp them out.

The Roman's did the same thing. They had a fluctuating pantheon.
Kazuya69 · 31-35, M
@Quizzical Exactly
@HorrorshowHijabi Some of the harsh sects do try to get rid of all the stuff they consider pagan. But those are the same ones that tend to be religious extremists. Needless to say most people have a live and let live attitude and the fundamentalists are not popular.
@Sharon Good point. I know someone's mother that is a very vocal atheist but loves christmas trees and easter, even goes to holiday church services.
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
Most Christian festivals are highjacked pagan ones!!
It's about control & rule, always has been always will be!!
Stay safe people ✌
MrPerditus1 · 61-69, M
Of a majority of the Christians I have known, don't go near saying anything is satanic. They see it as non Christian, but unless the thing is point towards Satanism, they see it for what it is. But just like any religion or large group believing the same thing, you have those that are extreme and those that aren't.

As for celebrating those holidays? I think it's not so much the ideals and beliefs behind the holidays as it is the celebration in general. Also, if you notice, a majority of Christian holidays are always close to or on other faiths holidays and it goes back many centuries when the Christian leaders were trying to block or get rid of other religions and their celebrations. By putting theirs on or around, they would and could make a larger gathering that was intended to drown out the other faiths.

I'm not saying that to be a jerk or anti-Christian, but it's a fact. When Christianity was just at it's peak, the leaders DID try to stamp out other religions. But then again, most religions try that. Only a small handful leave others to their own.

So, are they really celebrating the pagan beliefs during this time or are they celebrating a thing that has been long forgotten and they just take the word of their leaders and celebrate their with symbols that have long since lost the meaning to them?
Kazuya69 · 31-35, M
Its actually pretty understandable, if you even go all the way back to king tuts father, who actually believed Ra was the only god, the people freaked out so bad they literally chipped his name from the stones to erase it from history. Christians, mostly used the traditions of the pagans and incorporated them into their own as a way of convincing them to convert. Without the bad reaction. Its actually far more complex then that but it was the general idea.
@Kazuya69 yeah,I just don't know why they just sit go "ok,this isn't something Jesus did. We're all about Jesus so....let's not imitate nonchristians".
Kazuya69 · 31-35, M
@HorrorshowHijabi Actually historically many Christians were against it, especially puritans.

But for others its like saying Christ was born in winter when he was actually born sometime in late spring to early summer.
Ryannnnnn · 31-35, M
It's supposed to be symbolic but It's more of a commercial event now tbh.
@Qwerty14 I have a pretty solid grounding. My Dad was a Baptist preacher and he had a good library. I read it all. Later, as an adult, I taught Sunday School and directed the choir. I took two courses in comparative religions in college.

And I read a lot.

I'd say I was a part of the culture. And I have known a great many Christians and Catholics, although few Greeks.

I don't attend church anymore because I have different ideas than most, but I believe in God more firmly than ever.
@Mamapolo2016 I'm glad your mind seems open :)
@Qwerty14 So was my father's.
SW-User
I wish I had an inteligent answer but I like santa and the bunny.
Sharon · F
@SW-User That is an intelligent answer. :)
You have a point but i would not spoil the kids fun
MartinTheFirst · 22-25, M
They do it because they mostly don't care. They respond to criticism with "well that's not what we believe nowadays when we do the rituals so what we do isn't bad, for it to be bad you need to mean it in the way the pagans intended". Personally I'm christian but part of a religion that acknowledges that we needed to get rid of the pagan influence.

Us christians usually call something satanic when the subject revolves around sinning. It doesn't have anything to do with the time period.

 
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