Why Is Being Gay Considered “Amoral”? [I Am LGBT Friendly]

@Tsondru Committed sexual acts are not love. You can love your brother or sister or mother or father and never have sex with them. You can have sex with anyone at anytime and not love them. Sex is not love. Love is not sex.

@hippyjoe1955 And you speak to the tragedy of the world in my eyes.

We should only have sex with people we love and are committed to. That's my values.

The genders of the people seem irrelevant.

Seems odd that two women and love eachother in a committed relationship and they are "immoral", but a man can fuck anything with a pulse, and while he is also immoral, he is less so than those two women.

@Tsondru If you think that is an excuse then you are deluded. A pedophile can say he is only having sex with the one he loves as he rapes his daughter repeatedly.

@hippyjoe1955 Of course pedophilia does not apply to what I am sayiny. Children have no agency.

@Tsondru Can you tell the difference because I can't tell the difference. If one sexual deviant act is allowed then so too do all the others. You don't get to pick and choose based on 'love'.

@hippyjoe1955 Well. I'll take my own marriage as an example. I was married to a woman for some years before she died young.

I don't believe our union had any intrinsic blessing because we were married. I know quite a few married couples where the chapel didn't spare their marriage from domestic violence, indiffence and coldness, or cheating.

I think it had value because we loved eachother.

That's all that mattered.

@Tsondru So you think because there is sin it is OK to sin more?

@hippyjoe1955 I am not sure where the sin was in my marriage.

@Tsondru Sin is endemic to humanity. We can't escape it. Don't tell me that you never told a fib to your wife or she never told you one or you didn't have a fight or a power struggle or have cross feelings toward each other at times. You likely felt that you had fallen out of love at one point and looked at another woman with lust.

@hippyjoe1955 Of course. Loving people is hard. It takes heart, faith, commitment and focus.

Which is why I rejoice in anyone taking up that path. Genders aside.

@Tsondru If Yahweh says don't do something but you insist on doing it should you believe you are being faithful? If you sent your teenager to the store to buy a loaf of bread but the teenager used the money to buy weed instead would you be happy with your teenager and simply excuse his actions because of his 'love' for weed?

@hippyjoe1955 Would you stop two women from loving each other just because they both happen to be women? What if your daughter loved another girl?

@QueenOfZaun I won't stop anyone from anything. It is not my purview. That aside did you know the least stable relationship is lesbian? Simply citing statistics.

@hippyjoe1955 We could go back and forth on statistics all day long. The divorce rate is higher then ever. Does that mean you shouldn’t get married? Statistics are a probable, estimated prediction based on numerical patterns. Not a magic crystal ball foretelling the future.

@hippyjoe1955 Life is hard, and the world is going down the tubes with nihilism, selfishness, and materialism.

If people love and commit to each other-- I rejoice. That's the opposite of selfishness and materialism.

@hippyjoe1955 if you want to live in fear of the temper of a mythical being, that's for you to cope with. Don't expect us to do the same, because we won't. Stupid comparisons like that won't help you either.

@Tsondru The road to hell is paved with good intentions. The funny part you bemoan the fact that the world is full of nihilism, selfishness and materialism but fail to realize that what you are advocating leads to nihilism, selfishness and materialism. Marriage is not simply two people loving and committing to each other. It is seeking the better way. The higher plateau. I have been married to the same woman for 42 years. We have been through some extremely hard times yet we are still together. I can not say that we are still together because we are committed to each other but rather that we are committed to seeking that better way. She could have bailed when I decided to go to seminary rather than continue with my well paying job where she and the children were well taken care of. We could easily drifted apart when our son committed suicide as we each somehow blamed the other. I could easily have abandoned her as she went through cancer and all the ugly side effects that she still suffers from 10 years later. But His Grace has kept our eyes fixed on what really matters and not on the temporal. Our feelings are not important. Our commitment to God and through HIM to each other is what is important.

@jackieash You really don't have a clue what I feel. Run along before you make a bigger fool of yourself. (I don't fear God - I love Him)

@hippyjoe1955 You stayed together because of love. Love for eachother. Love of God.

Which is my point. Love. Just love.

@Tsondru No. We stayed together when we didn't love each other. There were times.... We stayed together because of our commitment to God and His Grace toward us.

@hippyjoe1955 @hippyjoe1955 You're making the fool of yourself. I never said I know how you feel (not that I'd want to, either). I just said don't expect everyone else to do the same as you. Why are you so easy to anger?

@jackieash Speaking of fools how are you doing? Did you fire up both of your synapses to post this or just one like last time?

@hippyjoe1955 You didn't answer my question. No matter. I've already worked out the answer.

@hippyjoe1955 [quote]Sex is not love. Love is not sex.[/quote]

So all the married gay couples just marry because they only want to have sex? That can't possibly be true, you're essentially saying that straight people only love each other. That doesn't make any logical sense.

@hippyjoe1955 [quote]least stable relationship is lesbian[/quote]

Post a link because when I tried to look it up I got like three different reports on scientists saying there's no difference. I'm curious to know your sites.