I Love Feminine Women

Ahh bless ya you do show your youth there.. a) it wouldnt get you banned just to say you like feminine women.. b) feminsim and femininity are NOT mutually exclusive.. it's perfectly possible to be both feminine and a feminist.. I am for a start.. so really you are just falling victim to the hatred hype there.. feminism doesnt mean man hater.. it doesnt mean butch.. it JUST means equality and respect..
And so while we are on the subject of equality and expectations. well then so you expect women to be this and that.. that's fine we all have our own preferences but you had better be REAL REAL SURE that if you are expecting women to be feminine that YOU are manly, protective.. if she has to dress up and do her hair then you do too.. not really fair to expect her to make an effort to look nice if you turn up in jeans and a t-shirt...
If you mean you want to take this anti feminism further then be real sure you are willing to earn ALL the money so she can stay home and raise kids and keep the house nice.. you work overtime she stays home..oh and of course you wont be expectin her to provide ANY sex before marriage will you cos a woman who isnt feminist will need to be very careful not to have sex before marriage in case it ruins her chances of getting a good man to support her..

[quote]Ahh bless ya you do show your youth there.. a) it wouldnt get you banned just to say you like feminine women.. b) feminsim and femininity are NOT mutually exclusive.. it's perfectly possible to be both feminine and a feminist.. I am for a start.. so really you are just falling victim to the hatred hype there.. feminism doesnt mean man hater.. it doesnt mean butch.. it JUST means equality and respect..
And so while we are on the subject of equality and expectations. well then so you expect women to be this and that.. that's fine we all have our own preferences but you had better be REAL REAL SURE that if you are expecting women to be feminine that YOU are manly, protective.. if she has to dress up and do her hair then you do too.. not really fair to expect her to make an effort to look nice if you turn up in jeans and a t-shirt...
If you mean you want to take this anti feminism further then be real sure you are willing to earn ALL the money so she can stay home and raise kids and keep the house nice.. you work overtime she stays home..oh and of course you wont be expectin her to provide ANY sex before marriage will you cos a woman who isnt feminist will need to be very careful not to have sex before marriage in case it ruins her chances of getting a good man to support her..[/quote]Look, I'm trying to write for my other groups here, so I don't really have time for a long winded reply. But what the hell.
First of all, your assertion that you can be feminine and a feminist is not entirely incorrect. There are feminine feminists out there, like Christina Hoff Sommers, but these women are all moderates. The feminists who do not act feminine are radicals, and if there is one thing I have learned about ideologies, it is that the most radical voices always get the most attention. The fat blue-haired lesbians are the spokeswomen for feminism, and this is the version of feminism that many women get sucked into. As a result, a large part of the movement, and possibly even the majority, is radical.
Secondly, you can't hide behind the dictionary definition of feminism. This is blatant damage control, and it simply doesn't work outside of the feminist echo chamber. A movement should be judged by its actions, not its definition. And as I said earlier, the most extreme members of a movement tend to gain control by virtue of their extremism.
Thirdly, have you ever heard the saying "the house is so infested with termites that you just have to burn it down"? This is exactly the case with feminism. You can't damage control forever. Eventually, a movement or ideology (both of which describe feminism) will stray so far from its goals, and commit so many transgressions, that it simply cannot be saved, and has to be abandoned and replaced with something better. In feminism's case, this has already occurred a long time ago.
[quote]If you mean you want to take this anti feminism further then be real sure you are willing to earn ALL the money so she can stay home and raise kids and keep the house nice.. you work overtime she stays home..oh and of course you wont be expectin her to provide ANY sex before marriage will you cos a woman who isnt feminist will need to be very careful not to have sex before marriage in case it ruins her chances of getting a good man to support her..[/quote]I am willing to earn all the money. That is something men are naturally inclined to do. And I do not mind sex before marriage. My only condition is that she have some standards when it comes to sex, and not sleep around too much. There is a reason people do not like sluts, and why the "no sex before marriage rule" was invented in the first place. It's because god knows what you might be carrying.

@prim and proper i was very careful not to insult him personally whilst also expressing *my* perspective.. I did it articulately and reasonably.. so while i respect your opinion too, your concern for the young man is misplaced as i never insulted him. If someone expresses a view that is misguided or untrue should we try to help and inform them or just let them go on believing something? Is this not how we learn.. it's a debate.. I didnt say he cannot have a view so again sorry but your concern there is misplaced. I seek to offer a different perspective yes.. i do so respectfully and in a way that is *supposed* to make people think. reflect.. I pointed out to the young man that if he expects women to dress up and be feminine then he should be prepared to be masculine at all times and to fulfill that role to the full - not pick and choose which bits he adheres to..
You made that point too.. about equality in some areas.. please do not mistake equality for fairness.. It is recognised that in order to be equal sometimes you need to give more to some groups in order to allow them the same access.. there are some areas where women are, and probably will be for some time disadvantaged - in terms of childcare for instance... so adjustments etc are necessary for women where they are not for women.. this generally helps both men and women who are parents..
Please bear in mind the need to be reasonable... and engaging in reasoned debate, even if one offers an opposing view IS valid.. I am sure you arent saying that if we dont agree with something someone posts we should just not respond? where's free speeech in that?

Oh and it might be worth mentioning.. the poster, who we *all* accept has a right to an opinion, just as we have a right to offer an alternative one if what he expresses is perhaps ill informed..is a self confessed men's rights activist.. so arguably the male version of a militant feminist.. do we tar all men as women haters just cos they stand up for men's rights no.. well let's apply the same logic to women's rights eh? Men and women compliment each other, need each other and should work together for the greater good of both.. lol signed a very feminine, feminist who loves men, women, children and respects everyone - ok except pervs who try to use and hurt others

[quote]@world respecfully again you show your lack of experience.. I am non religious and my reply was resoned, articulate.[/quote] I did not say that you were religious, I was saying that you talk about feminism in much the same way that religious people talk about their religion.[quote]I made points that should have helped you think, see a different perspective that would at very least make your stance more informed and well rounded.. i was explaining that women can be feminine and feminist.. you can disagre if you wish but it is a fact, so would be better to take that info and learn from it.. after all we listen to both sides do we not when we form an opinion?[/quote]I was not disagreeing with that point at all. I was saying that feminine feminists are a minority, and not representative of the movement. [quote]but instead you quite illogically start calling me religious? I didnt mention god.. im agnostic so you got that wrong.. hmm unless you mean religion in the political sense...[/quote] See above. [quote]well hmm yea but it's not me who on my profile claims to be an activist is it? So perhaps an inward look here is needed.. you have by admission stated you are a mens rights activist... im not an activist of any kind ... so which is the more politically *religious*[/quote]Feminism is by definition an ideology that seeks to change the world, and you are advocating it, so yes, you are an activist. And I am not being "religious". You are the one trying to convert me, and then blatantly preaching about how we are ignorant if we no not believe you.[quote]So very sad to see such ignorance among our youth.. no wonder half of them are social recluses and many are depressed and self-conscious.. Our education systems are clearly failing to reach these poor unfortunates.. it's worrying for the future.. I have heard that in some countries there is a movement of ignorance on this subject.. hate and lies being fed to people instead of truth.. very sad..[/quote]Case in point.

[quote]Oh and it might be worth mentioning.. the poster, who we *all* accept has a right to an opinion, just as we have a right to offer an alternative one if what he expresses is perhaps ill informed..is a self confessed men's rights activist.. so arguably the male version of a militant feminist.. do we tar all men as women haters just cos they stand up for men's rights no.. well let's apply the same logic to women's rights eh? Men and women compliment each other, need each other and should work together for the greater good of both.. lol signed a very feminine, feminist who loves men, women, children and respects everyone - ok except pervs who try to use and hurt others[/quote]I don't really think MRA's are the same as radical feminists. Maybe MGTOW are, but that's beside the point. See, MRA's are more like first-wave feminists. We're the ones fighting for equality. And right now, there's a lot to fight for. Women are the default when it comes to custody, men's genitals are mutilated at birth, young boys are put on tranquilizers for what, only thirty years or so ago, would be considered boyishness (or in other words, being forcibly feminized), physical assault by women is lightly punished, if at all, blatant misandry in allowed in the mainstream media with no consequences, men get little to no help when they are raped, shelters for men are few and far between, men are presumed guilty until proven innocent when accused of rape, they are considered oppressors despite not having any legal power over women, men have to pay child support for children that may not even be theirs, whereas men hardly ever get child support, and last but not least, women who do not wish to associate with feminism are reviled, abused and generally treated like Uncle Toms.

So very sad to see such ignorance among our youth.. no wonder half of them are social recluses and many are depressed and self-conscious.. Our education systems are clearly failing to reach these poor unfortunates.. it's worrying for the future.. I have heard that in some countries there is a movement of ignorance on this subject.. hate and lies being fed to people instead of truth.. very sad..

@world respecfully again you show your lack of experience.. I am non religious and my reply was resoned, articulate. I made points that should have helped you think, see a different perspective that would at very least make your stance more informed and well rounded.. i was explaining that women can be feminine and feminist.. you can disagre if you wish but it is a fact, so would be better to take that info and learn from it.. after all we listen to both sides do we not when we form an opinion? but instead you quite illogically start calling me religious? I didnt mention god.. im agnostic so you got that wrong.. hmm unless you mean religion in the political sense... well hmm yea but it's not me who on my profile claims to be an activist is it? So perhaps an inward look here is needed.. you have by admission stated you are a mens rights activist... im not an activist of any kind ... so which is the more politically *religious*

You do realize that not all feminists are masculine looking no?

So, I guess I'm not a woman, then. Thank you for making that clear.

I believe in equality among the genders. If that's feminism, then I'm a feminist. An extremely feminine feminist.

Women aren't put on earth to pander to your definition of what we should be. Grow up.

Feminists are cancer, they have nothing better to do then start fights with people

[quote]Well.. you know there is a group called Femen right?[/quote] Yes, I am fully aware of them, and I am fucking terrified. These "women" are the most toxic people in the world. They are self-proclaimed misandrist radical feminists, and just the fact that they show people their tits is not enough to assuage my hatred.

Adaydreambeliever you referred to his ignorance because he didn't conform to your view, that was patronizing,of course he needs to hear the other side but in a respectful manner not patronizing, I think you made a bad judgement on the way you expressed your points.

I am pretty sure that some people are intimidated by the feminist movement. Woman and men both.

[quote]So very sad to see such ignorance among our youth.. no wonder half of them are social recluses and many are depressed and self-conscious.. Our education systems are clearly failing to reach these poor unfortunates.. it's worrying for the future.. I have heard that in some countries there is a movement of ignorance on this subject.. hate and lies being fed to people instead of truth.. very sad..[/quote]You sound exactly like a religious nut. I hope you realize that.

[quote]Women aren't put on earth to pander to your definition of what we should be. Grow up.[/quote]No, but you evolved to want to make yourself more attractive to men. It's called sexual selection. It's one of the driving forces of evolution. Women evolved to attract men, and men evolved to attract women. However, men and women, having different needs, are attracted to different things.

Very well stated, young man.I agree 100%!

[quote]Hahaha...love this post..Good on ya! I think some women should get out of the leggings and stop wearing the trousers and go back to dresses, skirts, make up and good looking hair. Fair play to ya![/quote] Well, I don't mind women wearing pants, but I think they generally look better in more feminine clothing.

[quote]I believe in equality among the genders. If that's feminism, then I'm a feminist. An extremely feminine feminist.[/quote]No, you simply believe in equality. Feminism is a declaritive movement. Please do not get sucked in. Be an egalitarian. Then you don't need to damage control.

Lol hating feminism is a popular mainstream opinion why the fuck would someone ban you for that.

I appreciate that you've called my mother, wife, and several close friends of mine morbidly obese Chewbaccas because you dislike their politics, that's really well thought out and kind of you.

Adaydreambeliever that's not a nice thing to say and as you pointed out he is youthful and therefore hasn't had a great deal of experience in his life but none the less he's entitled to his opinion without being put down.

Hahaha...love this post..Good on ya! I think some women should get out of the leggings and stop wearing the trousers and go back to dresses, skirts, make up and good looking hair. Fair play to ya!

Lovelido that's a good point and some carry it too far, they want equality in selected areas not across the board.

I don't see the point in talking at anyone. Is it not better when we talk to people?

Well.. you know there is a group called Femen right?