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Which film do you consider to be a masterpiece?

I've seen thousands of films but there are only two that I might consider masterpieces, both directed by Hitchcock: "Vertigo" and "Rear Window". They aren't my only favourites by him, but they're two that at might consider come close to that description.

Which film do you consider to be a masterpiece?
Citizen Kane
Schindler's list
Lawrence of Arabia

Are some imho.
@Vivaci Shadow of a Doubt was Hitchcock's favorite of his films and mine
Human1000 · M
@Vivaci I so love Lawrence of Arabia.
@Vivaci i always found the Smithsonian to be overrated and confusing. i love all of the history museums. The one in Cincinnati was ruined a bit by moving it to the union terminal. they added quite a bit but i miss the tyrannosaurus Rex and the native American trails.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
Der Untergang (2004)
M (1931)
Once Upon A Time in the West (1968)
The Godfather (1972)
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@bijouxbroussard Really good German movie and some incredible acting.

And someone should also mention "The Big Lebowski". I was skimming over here and saw Revenant mentioned "Das Boot" ... that's also an incredible German movie.
@Kwek00 Yes. I saw Das Boot when it first came out.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@bijouxbroussard Well, you should try to watch "Der Untergang" as well. Apperently he's for free on youtbe, with english subtitles.
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One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest.
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@SW-User Excellent film but it gave me such a dip in mood at the end, I've never been able to rewatch it.
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True it is sad but the big Indian throwing the sink through the window at the end is meant to lift us.... That film, it’s just Jack at his finest. Watch it again. You won’t regret it..@PhilDeep
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
Life of Brian.
Harmonium1923 · 51-55, M
@Harriet03 Agreed!
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
@Harmonium1923 Movies are about getting under peoples skin & starting debates.
It sure did that!!
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I'm a big fan of Kurosawa. 2 film masterpieces - Seven Samurai and Yojimbo.
I also think Fritz Lang's "M" starring Peter Lorre was one as well.
@SW-User wow, Kwek just mentioned about that movie M(1931)

...now I'm looking forward to seeing it...😏💙
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@Vivaci He's so expressive in it. I hope you like it as much as I do. 💕
@SW-User I'm really intrigued, Harry. Esp. since you n Kwek recommend it. Sure, will lyk...hope I find it on YouTube or Prime... lol 🤗💞
texasdaddydom · 51-55, M
Forrest Gump
Jeffrey53 · 51-55, M
12 Angry Men. One of the most well-written and well-directed films I've ever seen. featuring a bunch of diverse and different types of characters
@Jeffrey53 That was my choice as well. And it’s held up wonderfully, over 60 years later.
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terminator 2
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@KuroNeko That's amazing! I watched it less than a year ago but I've only seen it three/four times :)
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@SW-User I second this suggestion.
KuroNeko · 41-45, F
@PhilDeep I remember getting the video for my birthday and secretly watching it before my parents wrapped it up 😂
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
Thanks everyone, for your contributions so far. I still don't rate Merchant-Ivory as masterpieces but I do find them under-represented and so wonder that "A Room with a View" and "The Remains of the Day" haven't been mentioned.

Also films based on Jane Austen novels: "Bridget Jones's Diary" and "Clueless" spring to mind as non-obvious favourites from these :)
JoeMW · 51-55, M
In the Heat of the Night
monte3 · 70-79, M
@JoeMW what they call you In Philadelphia boy? They call me Mr. Tibbs! 😊
UpForItNow · 22-25, F
@JoeMW Actually, anything with Rod Steiger.
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@JoeMW Loved this.
senghenydd · M
"Gone With The Wind" Really well made the acting the photography the costumes they didn't skimp and it shows.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@bijouxbroussard Well... the entire goal of both movies is not a history lesson. One portrays a romance between a stuck up stupid woman that makes a lot of bad descisions and even gets people killed, with an overly manly almost heroic romantic that chases his own wants but at some point allows himself to fall in love. And the other depicts a children story of a couple of kids that grow up in the south and loose themselves in a fantasy world that is created by the slave that is friendly to them and tells them stories.

Both are romantic stories, and both are drenched in this romantic southern simplistic world where everything is good and fine because no one cares about the slaves which are seen as property. For the author of "Gone with the Wind"... that's incredibly clear. It's romanticism, it's not meant to be real and thus it downplays the stains in favor of a cleaned up fantasy version. It's only dangerous when people start seeing it as a history lesson, if you are aware what it is, then you can still enjoy the narrative without the greater scheme. If slavery however would have been romanticised instead of being put on the background... I think that would be more problematic for the movie. Just like your example of the KKK, you can have the characters in the book look up to the KKK because they were from the south and had that mindset, that doesn't mean that the director can't portray the cruelty of it all... But he decided to cut it out completely.
@Kwek00 Like I said, you either get it, or you don’t. 🤷🏽‍♀️
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@bijouxbroussard okay 🤷‍♂️
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Another favorite of mine that was a cinematic masterpiece is The Grey Fox. Unbelievably wonderful cinematography. Great western.

Another classic is A Face In The Crowd. Believe it or not, Andy Griffith turns out a brilliant performance.
@SW-User Yes. Andy Griffith was a more talented and nuanced actor than many realized.
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@bijouxbroussard He shocked me when I first saw it. He was riveting in his ability to turn on and off the good old boy persona and show how conniving and manipulative his character was. I saw part of a movie with him a number of years ago, might have been one of the last ones he made, in which he played an innocent acting but evil grandfather. Scary as hell! lol.
“12 Angry Men“. I recently watched it again, the 1957 original as well as the 1997 remake, and it amazed me how well it’s held up in just about every detail.
Celt43 · 46-50, M
@bijouxbroussard I love the 57 version one of my all time favourite movies
@Celt43 Mine, too. The remake is well done, but the original is on of my list of favorite movies.
@bijouxbroussard i forgot to add 12 Angry men...that should be a law that you watch it before doing jury duty....brilliant film
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Interstellar if you're into SciFi.
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@PhilDeep ye I'd say 2001 would be a classic in the sci fi genre. The original blade runner and the recent ones are both excellent we can't compare them both. I love them both equally. Interstellar on the other hand is more focused on the reality which is what I like most.
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@SW-User I did enjoy it's treatment of time-shifting :) Have you read the novel of 2001? The physics in that's pretty accurate as far as I recall.
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@PhilDeep no I didn't read the novel but maybe I will someday🤗
Jeffrey53 · 51-55, M
Dead Poet Society
Jeffrey53 · 51-55, M
@bijouxbroussard another one I like was awakenings
Jeffrey53 · 51-55, M
@PhilDeep there’s a lot of masterpieces here’s another The one flew over the cuckoos Nest
@Jeffrey53 i really loved Robin as a serious actor
Harmonium1923 · 51-55, M
I’d add The Graduate to this list.
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@Harmonium1923 Thanks - it's been mentioned. I wonder how you found "Closer"?
polyandrym66 · 70-79, M
@Harmonium1923 the music was brilliant and i love Dustin Hoffman...the rest was drug induced nonsense
Sarah123 · F
American Beauty, everything about that movie is magical
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@Sarah123 I expected it to be over-rated so didn't watch it until months after it was released but it was love at first sight :)
Gusman · 61-69, M
City of Lost Children - (French, 1995)
Dune - Original 1984
The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover, 1989
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@CrazyMusicLover From all of his soundtracks, I think Twin Peaks and Mulholland Drive would be the most haunting... far as I can recall.
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
@PhilDeep Mulholland drive on top for me. Always.
But I find it fascinating that something like collaboration between Marc Caro, Jean-Pierre Jeunet and Angelo Badalamenti existed. It's no surprise that The City of Lost Children is so outstanding.
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@CrazyMusicLover I've only seen it once, myself, at the cinema when it was first released.
I would definitely list The Godfather, Shawshank Redemption and Rebecca in this list, however all 3 are excellent novels that have been made into great movies.

I would also like to list Sixth Sense and Thelma and Louise.

And finally, even if a little cheesy I suggest Grease for that great 1970s take on the 1950s.
JohnnyNoir · 56-60, M
@InOtterWords Rebecca is right up there as my favorite Hitchcock film. And I’d lump Godfather 2 with the first one.
@JohnnyNoir agree with you on both
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@InOtterWords Thelma and Louise is a favourite. Enjoyed Sixth Sense too.
CheshireCatalyst · 36-40, M
The Usual Suspects even though it's horrifically problematic now.
eMortal · M
Schindler's list. I weeped.
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@revenant In my collection, but still unwatched. I'll bump it up my list then :)
revenant · F
@PhilDeep nobody I have known has ever regretted watching this great movie. I was totally uninterested myself because "war movies" are not exactly my favourites . Great suspense !🙂
ExtremeNext · 31-35
Harold and Kumar go to white castle
SubstantialKick · 31-35, M
The Godfather.
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@SubstantialKick What did you think of parts two and three, I wonder? Coppola did a re-edit for television, putting the first and second parts into chronological order and I think it was an improvement. I love the first two. Only watched the third one once at the cinema and once on disc. Wasn't a bad film in my opinion, but nowhere near the first two.
SubstantialKick · 31-35, M
@PhilDeep Part II is just as good as the first one, and maybe just a bit better. Part III put me to sleep, lol.
Inherit The Wind
Chitty chitty bang bang
Saving Private Ryan
The Firm
Top Gun
Die Hard
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@Vivaci Have you seen the previous adaptation as Pygmalion?
@SW-User Exactly...🤩 And who could have done it better than Rex Harrison and Audrey? 😍
@PhilDeep Yeah, I have...how could I miss it? 😇
I also loved

Doctor Zhivago
Sound of music
Roman Holiday
Cleopatra (Liz Taylor)
@UpForItNow Oh! Another great movie.

aww...thank you. It's the kind of movies I grew up watching.
Another of my favorites was

[b]Mackenna's Gold[/b]🤩
ArtieKat · M
@Vivaci [quote]Doctor Zhivago[/quote] Nice one! I hadn't thought of that!
@ArtieKat Me too....I missed it when I first mentioned a few good movies. 🤦‍♀️🤗
Biffed · 26-30, M
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@Biffed I'd certainly put it way near the top for sight-gags, at least ;-)
Focusonme · 26-30, F
The Godfather
ArtieKat · M
@Focusonme One of my favourites
ArtieKat · M
Just thought of another few: Bonnie & Clyde (Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway). Thomas Crown Affair (Steve McQueen & Faye Dunaway again). The Taking of Pelham One Two Three (Robert Shaw & Walter Matthau)......
UpForItNow · 22-25, F
A Clockwork Orange. A blast from start to finish. I'd add Taxi Driver, Midnight Cowboy, and 2001.
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@UpForItNow I've not seen Midnight Cowboy; all the others you mention I'd say are technically brilliant, though I've never been able to rewatch Taxi Driver, and much as I love Kubrick, I have to be in a very dark mood to rewatch "Clockwork". If you've not read the book, I recommend it. There are two versions - with different endings. Read the fuller ending, the way the author intended it, I believe. Kubrick, I think adapted the other ending. Been a long time so can't really remember.
UpForItNow · 22-25, F
@PhilDeep Have indeed read the book, noting most of it isn't even in English, and as with most of these favourites - I should have added Easy Rider and The Graduate - I only watch them late at night when pissed so can enjoy them each time anew!
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@UpForItNow I've still not watched Easy Rider. Some day, perhaps!
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Citizen Lane, King Kong, Brief Encounter, Silent Running
@SW-User the thing with citizen kane is... when i saw it i found it terribly boring, i seen that a dozen times before...

but then i realized i seen that so many times because everys fucking film copied citizen kane in story structure, camera and cut
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@Strawberrry exactly it has defined films ever since.
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@PhilDeep King Kong was on the BBC iplayer recently in the UK in lockdown I watched it again. Set the whole definition for special effects in films until the digital age.
Frank52 · 70-79, M
I've tried this exercise many times and cannot settle on one film. I have considered some the very best of their era ([i]Citizen Kane, 2001: A Space Odyssey[/i]) but modern audiences don't get and then a I see a film which really touches something deep and although it might not win awards, for me it has done the job of reaching into me ([i]Collateral Beauty, Bridge of Spies[/i]). Then there are the ones I just watch over and over as a kind of 'safety blanket' when I'm feeling too tired to use my brain.

I would put [i]Rear Window[/i] in the great films of the 60s (and definitely in the top work ever in cinema history) and [i]Vertigo[/i] is wonderful, but when viewed from 2020 the way women are objectified and pushed around in the narrative makes uncomfortable watching.

[i]Interstellar [/i]has to be a modern sci-fi classic and the legacy of [i]2001[/i] can be seen in it.

Fortunately, as in the famous art galleries, there are many masterpieces.
Frank52 · 70-79, M
@PhilDeep I enjoyed both. [i]Arrival[/i] was interesting and engaging and I think I'd like to watch it again since I didn't get everything the first time. The new [i]Blade Runner[/i] was good, but I don't think I was as involved as I had been with the first. The trouble with a sequel to a seminal work is that it has to work hard for more of the originality that the first audiences saw. With the exception of the second Terminator film, I haven't really seen one that made me go 'Wow!' like the first film did.

Both of these are amongst those many film which make me pleased I saw them but didn't make me rush out and tell others to see them.

Have you seen [i]The Age of Adaline[/i]? It's a gentle, quirky sci-fi romance which I thought the female members of my family would enjoy. They found it too quirky. ☹️
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@Frank52 I haven't. I ran out of enthusiasm and funds somewhat simultaneously some years back, but I'll do some catching-up when able, so will put that on my list. I quite liked the US remake of Solaris, actually, though many might have preferred the original.
Frank52 · 70-79, M
@PhilDeep The remake was not bad, but again the original made a deep impression when it was released.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
Jaws (1975)
Ben Hur (1959)
Platoon (1986)
Planet of the Apes (1968)
@Kwek00 Well, it certainly goes well with the practical character of Heston. 😅😆 I mean, I actually thought that it was the most natural response... albeit a bit stupid. 🤭
Frank52 · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 I think my favourite line is the last one from Heston's lips:
'OH MY GAAARRRD!'
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@Kwek00 Jaws was superb, in my opinion. Platoon seemed over-rated to me. Planet if the Apes interesting but probably more relevant when it was first released. Not watcged Ben Hur.
JohnnyNoir · 56-60, M
2001 still tops my list. There are others that qualify but this one is my personal favorite
12 Angry Men, a masterclass in showing so many characters in so little time with limited interaction
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Shawshank Redemption
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@PhilDeep It is flawless in my opinion
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@SW-User Gotta say, can't think of a single flaw in it myself, either... Well, perhaps no significant female characters?
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@PhilDeep The plot doesn't need them, so it would be a bit false putting them in I think
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PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@Gumbodidlo I see. She and the other models were absolutely eye-poppingly gorgeous though, right?
ArtieKat · M
@polyandrym66 One of my favourites
polyandrym66 · 70-79, M
@Gumbodidlo You are so lucky... 👍
all the Die Hard movies. But only during Christmas time. 😂
I forgot to mention my favourite film as being Ice Age 3
😎👍
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Was it "Ted" where this was part of the plot?
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The Piano

The Sting

Lord of the Rings Trilogy
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@SW-User Enjoyed all of these.
helenS · 36-40, F
Here's another masterpiece: "[b]Stalker[/b]" by Andrei Tarkovsky (1979), indicating making real art was possible in the USSR.

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PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@helenS Will definitely look into it - thank you :)
helenS · 36-40, F
@PhilDeep Here's the trailer:
[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMGA2wMuiP4]
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@helenS Will check this out later, though I have a feeling that like for "Audition" even the trailer might freak me out!
Gentlequill · 51-55, M
Good night, and good luck.
Human1000 · M
Great screenplay, acting, the black and white..@Gentlequill
monte3 · 70-79, M
Pulp Fiction.
helenS · 36-40, F
@monte3 Good one! Not sure if it's a "masterpiece" but certainly a good one!
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@monte3 It's clever and engaging but I don't like Tarantino that much. Violence = comedy doesn't suit me well.
ButterRobot · 51-55, M
Dr Strangelove.
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@ButterRobot Outrageous but brilliant!
Lilymoon · F
Django unchained
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@Lilymoon Guess some day I might catch up but I think I gave up on Tarantino after Death Proof or whatever that disaster was called.
Lilymoon · F
@PhilDeep death proof?? 🤔
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@Lilymoon https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1028528/
ArtieKat · M
Not mentioned by anyone else:
Casablanca
The Outlaw Josey Wales
Unforgiven
Women In Love
Last Tango In Paris
@ArtieKat I did enjoy Casablanca.
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@ArtieKat Casablanca, Unforgiven and Last Tango in Paris are all outstanding, I'd say, for very different reasons.
ArtieKat · M
@PhilDeep So difficult to pick just one. I would have also nominated The Godfather.... :-)
Carry on up the Khyber.
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helenS · 36-40, F
I think Ed Wood's "[b]Plan 9 From Outer Space[/b]" should also be mentioned.
A masterpiece of incompetence.
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
@Frank52 I love Mars Attacks :)
helenS · 36-40, F
@Frank52 You mean the 1994 biographical film starring Johnny Depp?
I love this film. Not sure about its historical accuracy but it's a great work of art.
Frank52 · 70-79, M
@helenS It was hilarious, but yes, never take your history lessons from films. 😄

 
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