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I Find Psychology Interesting

After some strange experiences [i](plural, so this is not a personal attack on annyone)[/i] this week on SW, I decided to add another story and change my "about me" page. People that feel attacked by what I have to write, should at least read it out to the finish. If people see anny problems with this, please let me know in the comment section. As this post will show, I appreciate the critical voice deeply as long as it's founded in facts and is rational.

First of all, I want to make clear that I'm not a psychologist. Neither did I study psychology. I'm not branding annyone of being sick. I write these ideas as much for myself, as the reader that is willing to finish reading it. I write it in good faith, and as a warning for those that are unaware of the thing that I consider problematic.

What I want to talk about is not "narcissism", but the tendency of people to be "narcissistic". I think this tendency resides in all of us. Because somewhere deep within ourselves, we have the longing to be loved for the person that we are. So I consider myself guilty of what I'm going to write, but I can only become aware of this if someone else can point it out for me. It's really hard for an individual to spot their short commings, that's (what I believe) true friends are for.

Narscissus was a Greek Mythological figure, and as manny myths are told over and over again, manny diffrent narratives pop up. I've choicen [i](arbitrary)[/i] to choose this narrative to make my point:

[i]"Narscissus, one day found a pond and saw his reflection in the water. He fell so in love with himself, that he stayed at the pond day and night, looking at himself. People came to get him away, but he just stayed there unwilling to listen. At some point he wanted to touch himself, act on his desires of love and admiration... and he drowned."[/i]


Now... what does this have to do with fora or social media.

A lot of people on the internet seem to like their own thoughts. They write something, and expect everyone to like it. They expect praise and hearts, for their thoughts. Because these thoughts and ideas are theirs and they seem to define their identity [i](the person they consider themselves to be)[/i].

They don't want you to be you or have your own thoughts, what they want [i](and actively look for)[/i] is people to mirror their own believes [i](to see themselves reflected in your praises of their comment)[/i], so they can fall in love with these people and call them their friends. The consequence is that you push everyone else away, that everyone that doesnt reflect your own ideas becomes an "enemy". A person that actively wants to ruin your mood and disrupt your sense of reality. The see criticism of their ideas and posts as a personal attack. An attack on their verry being, an attack on their identity. Criticism of an idea becomes criticism of a personal nature. As if all the ideas the person has, are automatically okay. People that act like this get really worked up and emotional really quickly, they don't discuss what was said but they attack the person that said it. Because the person that breaks their illusion, this self reflection in the pond, is there to hurt their feelings. These people are unable of real self-reflection, they are unable of self-criticism and they will always see people that have anny criticism as something they need to get rid off. They live in the constant halo and bliss of their own self, blinded by love and passion. It's emotional NOT rational.

Now... everyone [i](including myself)[/i] has to watch out, because as I said, sometimes you [i](and me as well)[/i] also fall in this trap. We too choose to surround ourselves with people that we like and share identities with. It's a fairly human thing and it's something really strong. It's a group mentality and it's in essence not a bad thing, it's part of being human. But passion, love and hatred that runs in a group can become a really destructive force in society. An entire mob, blinded by their own passion that direct their feelings upon those that break the illusions they might have, has led to serious cosequences in the past.

I believe [i](and that's my idea)[/i] that real friends, are people that can talk to eachother in a rational/mature way, say things about eachoters thoughts, but always end up together at the table breaking bread. Because true friends now that they value eachother as a person, as a human being, and that they value the honesty of the other person because they choose to reason with them in a friendly way. True friends can disagree deeply, but it doesnt diminish their respect for eachother as humang beings. Therefore, I would advice people to not only surround yourself with people that only agree with you, or you'll be living a lie before you know it. I consider "opposition" [i](as in: those that disagree on a rational level, not an emotional one) [/i]important. It keeps you real as a person, and it stops you from loosing yourself in self-admiration.

For those that read this far... I'll give anny reader this advice, which can be found on one of our war monuments. [b]It remembers a time when only one opinion counted, and all other thoughts and criticisms where [u]blocked[/u][/b] [i](and send to camps or shot in front of a wall)[/i]. [b]A time were being a friend meant that you had to reflect the ideas of the "general will". A time that didn't allow pluralism in annyway, and where respect only excisted for the once that shared the same opinion. A time where lies became truths, and the general paranoia for "the other" turned into violence.[/b] A time that caused a trauma that generations later we are still struggling with. [b][u]THINK!!! Be critical[/u], not only for others [u]but specially for yourself![/u] But [u]never do it without respect.[/u] Because [u]the person you are talking too is still a human being, and therefore subjective to the same flaws you are subjective too.[/u][/b] Don't loose yourself in self-admiration, don't ban all the people that care about you from your life, understand that your own ideas might be wrong and try to figure out if they are. If you don't, you might end up drowning in a pond of your own making.

[b]Watch your thoughts, they become words;
Watch your words, they become actions;
Watch your actions, they become habits;
Watch your habits, they become character;
Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny.[/b]



Feel free to criticise or respond... just do it in a rational way. I admire your courage to speak up, so I can learn to better myself. Thank you for reading.
Peaches · F
I remember this saying as well, we all need to "watch it!" 😉 My ex was very narcissistic and it was a blessing to be able to finally get away from him! People should be able to agree to disagree without any argument over it. I've seen people loose friends over who they voted for, crazy!🥴
Peaches · F
@Kwek00 I don't speak French. It's been nice chatting and I've been on line too long. Have a great day or evening over there. 👋🏼🙂
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
Les goûts et les couleurs ne se discutent pas
= We don't discuss tastes and colors

If in the french language areas, an argument breaks out about tastes/colors ... this is one of those sentences that kills the conversation. Because it reminds people that you really can't make a good an argument about such things.

I'm off to bed soon, so thanks.
Be good out there! Good luck with the country music.🙋‍♂️
Peaches · F
@Kwek00 Thanks for the clarification. ⭐️ I mostly listen to the old legends of country. I do like a little bit of the new stuff.
Miram · 31-35, F
Recognize your limits. That's the only way you are going to be able to surpass them one day. By understanding where they are..And it's not a comfortable process.

Thank you for messaging me and for the post ❤️ I will be honored to have you as a friend one day.
When someone criticizes our views or just lets us know that our views are not orthodoxical it can be quite useful. It's when they only see the flaws in us that the friendship is broken.
SW-User
Living in an echo chamber of thought sounds like hell 😱
JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F
@Kwek00 again. You are claiming people are narcissistic. Having narcissistic traits (which we all have) is not narcissistic. I know it sounds good to you..but that is not how it works.
JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F
@Kwek00 also. I made a comment I did not make the comment to debate you on the topic. I said what I had to say and now I am done saying what I have to say. Have a lovely day.

Stop prowling my profile.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@JaggedLittlePill

you wrote:

[quote]I don't think what you are talking about is narcissism [...]

[b]You have made assumptions[/b] based on the little information [...][/quote]


I wrote:

[quote]What I want to talk about is [b][u]not[/u] "narcissism"[/b], but the tendency of people to be "narcissistic".[/quote]



It's right in front of you, you just have to read miss Jaggedlittlepill.
You point out that I'm assuming things. But my text is there for annyone to read, and you can point out annything you don't like about and use the text to tell me where I'm wrong. It's pretty long, no assumptions are needed. If you can't do that, then you are the one assuming things. If someone would accuse you of something, or not agree on something, and they can't point out why? Do you think their opinion is important enough to listen too in that scenario? Or is just an empty box?


[quote] I know it sounds good to you..but that is not how it works.[/quote]

And you are the arbiter of that? Why? You can't even substain your argument by pointing at what I wrote. So far you have been incapable of doing so.


[quote]I said what I had to say and now I am done saying what I have to say. [/quote]

Of course you are. You can't even point out why you have an opinion. That's how great it is. If you can't say why something is wrong, or you can't point out why something is the way you see it. Maybe in those cases, it's better to keep your opinions for yourself? Because if they can't be substained or defended, they are probably not worth being out there.

Yeah, you have a good weekend too.
Frank52 · 70-79, M
Very interesting and well thought through piece. I find the thrust of what you say fits very well with my preferred way of debate.
JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F
I don't think what you are talking about is narcissism and also I don't think you get to decide you know everyones intention when they write a post and how they want people to react.

You have made assumptions based on the little information you have of these people and from a very small snippet of their life that they put out in the world of SW.
JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F
@Kwek00 it does not.matter if you are speaking of someone specific or in general it is all the same assumptions.


It is not hard to make assumptions...this entire post is filled with them. Maybe I would advise you to read it again.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@JaggedLittlePill

Okay... can you please point out anny assumption that I made? That would be nice to back up your claim, so that I know what you are talking about.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@JaggedLittlePill I guess you are busy. Annyway, whenever you have the time to substain your argument with anny real parts of the text that I've written. Would be super nice of you. Then at least we can figure out if either of our arguments were rational and not "emotional". And then you can also answer that part about me talking about "narscissim" instead of "narscistic tendencies". And then we can also find out what parts of the text that I have to read again to better understand it.

That would be super nice of you, and it would make a lot more sense then an ambiguous argument that so far hasn't been substained in an annyway. Going: "J'accuse!" [i](I accuse you!)[/i] without giving evidence, just because you have an opinion... doesn't seem like a healthy habbit for the long run.

Have a good weekend in the mean time!

 
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