How are the "bad old days" like today?

@HopelessGuy That's true. We don't shoot sick people anymore...we fine them heavily, or jail them, take away their livlihood, and make sure their neighbors will rat them out.

And only 650 dead remain unburied in New York. Cuomo has them stacked inside refrigerated trucks.

@4meAndyou

People still are aganist masks.

And it's affected people's duty to report themselves.

If all affected people were strictly followed process in the initial wave we wouldn't have had
the problem now.

@HopelessGuy That is untrue. The WHO published an article about their new findings on covid19. They are retracting earlier statements, telling people NOW that lockdowns are and were a huge mistake.

We still don't have N-95 masks available for everyone, and even KN-95's are in short supply, and they are the ONLY masks that are effective.

@4meAndyou it is not untrue.
Even several leaders didn't wear masks.


I just read WHO ARTICLE,

WHO recognizes that at certain points, some countries have had no choice but to issue stay-at-home orders and other measures, to buy time.

Governments must make the most of the extra time granted by ‘lockdown’ measures by doing all they can to build their capacities to detect, isolate, test and care for all cases; trace and quarantine all contacts; engage, empower and enable populations to drive the societal response and more.


This is what it says.


Lockdown is unavoidable even though it affects a lot of people.

It's a war against the diesease we can't ask virus to be fair.


Without actions like this diesease spreading can't be controlled.


I hope more people understand it.


Also I don't have any better idea to fix the issue.

@HopelessGuy Check your dates.

Oct 12 2020

https://fee.org/articles/who-reverses-course-now-advises-against-use-of-punishing-lockdowns/

[quote]Dr. David Nabarro, the WHO's Special Envoy on COVID-19, told Spectator UK’s Andrew Neil last week that politicians have been wrong in using lockdowns as the “primary control method” to combat COVID-19.

“Lockdowns just have one consequence that you must never ever belittle, and that is making poor people an awful lot poorer,” said Nabarro.

Dr. Michael Ryan, Director of the WHO's Health Emergencies Programme, offered a similar sentiment.

“What we want to try to avoid - and sometimes it’s unavoidable and we accept that - but what we want to try and avoid is these massive lockdowns that are so punishing to communities, to society and to everything else,” said Dr. Ryan, speaking at a briefing in Geneva.

These are stunning statements from an organization that has been a key authority and moral voice responsible for handling the global response to the pandemic.

Cues from the WHO have underpinned each and every national and local lockdown, threatening to push 150 million people into poverty by the end of the year.[quote]

[quote]And even as the WHO calls on nations to refrain from imposing lockdowns, many governments continue to use this strategy. Schools in many US states remain closed, bars and restaurants are off-limits, and large gatherings–apart from social justice protests–are condemned and shut down by force.

The effects of the prolonged lockdowns on young people are now becoming more clear. A [b]recent study from Edinburgh University says keeping schools shut down will increase the number of deaths due to COVID-19. Added to that, the study says lockdowns “prolong the epidemic, in some cases resulting in more deaths long-term.[/b]”[/quote]

[quote]As the doctors and scientists stated in the Grand Barrington Declaration signed this month in Massachusetts, the “physical and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies” have themselves caused devastating effects on both short and long-term health.[/quote]

@4meAndyou @4meAndyou https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/herd-immunity-lockdowns-and-covid-19

15th October.

Also I didn't say lockdown hasn't affected us. It did affect and everyone has different opinions about how we should've handled it.


It's not my place to say what is the best approach. This is the first pandemic which used all modern transports to spread faster. Nobody was prepared.


Also I feel that death of working member of a poor family is much worse than lockdown.


And all we can do is kinder to each other and help.


Let's not argue.

@HopelessGuy We won't argue. I like people who are polite, as you are. But I do want to mention WHO's position on Covid19 is in a link on the bottom of the page you reference.