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I absolutely adore Chopin and Liszt’s Etudes but my hands are small and I’m not strong enough to play them :(
alan20 · M
DON'T follow Schumann's example. He invented a device for wearing while he slept, believing it would increase his stretch, and ended up partly paralysing his hand. From then on it was mainly composing.
@alan20 ...and then, DEcomposing...!

Too soon? 😉
? Strong enough? To activate a piano which is properly regulated only takes ounces of touch...?

If you really are straining, then I think you are laboring under some of the non-ergonomic notions of some of the received technique.

Gyorgy Sandor's [i]On Piano Playing[/i] is what he came up with in response to a traditional technique which may not work with your body, and which--even more damningly--does not aid in the production of sound & playing of pieces.

If you are straining, something is wrong. Learn from Leon Fleischer...
@Lucy01 yeah but I think of stamina as being something you need to climb El Capitan or Halfdome, to run a marathon...

part of Sandor's observations are about not doing straining motions (keep most of your muscle/movements in the center of the ranges, don't use positions which count on having muscles in an extreme position) and not doing the wrong type of repetitive motions (you do things which allow muscles to contract and relax, you don't strain them by keeping them in the same position and throwing your hands at the keys).

In the end, he advocates using the natural continuous change of positions to give you...stamina...at the keyboard because you are always allowing muscles to rest and then be used in a cyclic way...
@jennypenny hmmmm...as an example, when I was in college and first heard another student play the C# min [i]Prelude[/i] by Rachmaninoff, I went to the music library, xeroxed it, and taught myself how to play it in a week. Sounds a bit better on the 'B' than on the crappy dorm piano at that particular dorm.

But that is giving away some things...
Lucy01 · 22-25, F
@SomeMichGuy so what else can you play apart from the Rach Prelude? Any favourite composers?
alan20 · M
Some of the Chopin Etudes (and Preludes) are comparatively easy technically but I'd have to check back over my scores to remind myself of stretches involved. Its often possible to cheat a little by arpeggiating the chord, or playing the bass note just before the rest, or leaving out some of the harmonically less important notes. I assume you're not talking about Carnegie Hall! Also the Chopin Nocturnes are more approachable. Have you listened to the Liszt concert etude known as Un Sospiro! Very haunting. Enjoy yourself.
Uncle · 46-50, M
I actually stopped playing the piano regularly because of my smallish hands, so I feel you.
Liszt is very difficult. He gas big hands!
You need to practice and not worry about your small hands. Its just about building stamina...You can do this!!!!

[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjSC0GAzdR0]

If he can, you can...🤗
@Vivaci
[quote]build some muscles and stamina[/quote]

Please check out Sandor's [i]On Piano Playing[/i]...the notion that you need huge strength and stamina...I think this is very much a hallmark of piano teachers pushing technique which doesn't work with your anatomy.
@jennypenny
[quote]A bit like saying if Einstein could discover relativity we all could do it @Vivaci
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Hmmm...you aren't being asked to come up with Chopin's pieces on your own, to compose them.

It is more like saying that, if Einstein could conceive of something, you can understand it, too. Which is true, though it might take you longer, but you have advantages Einstein did not have: over 100 years of people thinking about, writing about, and teaching relativity (special for over 110 yrs, general for over 100 yrs), with the result that it is much easier to learn than going off and reading his [i]Annalen der Physik[/i] papers without guidance.

Likewise, there are many vids etc. about the playing of Chopin, etc., and even vids which might answer "how does pianist X finger this section of Op. Y?"...huge assets formerly unavailable.

You can play Chopin, with time and effort. You can understand Einstein, with time and effort.
@SomeMichGuy LOLZ...like your sense of humor, man! You're so right bout that technique is key.

I'll surely check out Sandor's video. Thanks...
funfan · 46-50, M
Chopin is so awesome! Hey, even though you may not be able to play his music, you can still enjoy it. :)
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funfan · 46-50, M
@Lucy01 indeed it would. haha have you tried again lately? 😊
funfan · 46-50, M
@Lucy01 indeed it would. haha have you tried again lately? 😊
SW-User
I love Chopin. It's easy to get your heart around, if not your hands I guess.
jennypenny · 70-79, F
Same here. I can play the 'easier' Chopin ones but Liszt had a hand like a gorilla!
Newandimproved · 61-69, M
it really is amazing to see a pianist playing a complicated piece
ozgirl512 · 26-30, F
You're way ahead of me!
IDK I used to play piano and my hands were tiny, normally had to jump keys if it got a little fast or extreme. Although I gave up classic for EDM
Paradiddle · 46-50, M
I love the sound of piano, I wish I could play one! I'm a drummer and bassist
Mugin16 · 46-50, M
Nice! Maybe your hands will become stronger if you practice more?

 
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