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I Am A Real Werewolf

Okay, Listen Up... Alright, I am both physically and mentally tired, and I am also tired of having to say the same thing over and over again. So, let us just clarify about the concept of biting. I will try to make this as simple as possible.

First: there is no known evidence to validate the concept that a werewolf can change another person into a werewolf.

Second: the concept, even in myths and legends, barely if at all existed before the age of movies because, while it lacks logic in real life, it is an excellent plot device to show a person's life "changing" from being socially awkward to being confident and cool, or just to make you feel sorry for their "curse".

Third: there is no good justification for wanting to be a werewolf or anything other than what you are because changing what you are will not change who you are and, most of the time, people only want to be changed because they do not like their current life. So, instead of facing their problems, they seek a release. They want to run away and be in the woods and feel the wind on their face and be free, etc. In reality, life is not that simple. Your problems do not cease to exist just because you ignore them. In fact, almost all of the time, they get worse.

Fourth: any person who would actually come to where you are and bite you to "change" you is not someone you would want near you in the first place. No real wolf is going to out themselves so easily, much less take the time and money to drive or fly to your house and put their mouth on a stranger's body.

Fifth: because you are wanting to become a werewolf, I would assume then that you do not know what it is like to be a werewolf. You will not be super-strong, be able to hear someone whispering a mile away, become magickally "cooler" as a person, or join some battle between werewolves and vampires. You will be a person who is inescapably different from the general public. You will be laughed at for even mentioning the word "werewolf". You will have nightmares about being chased or chastised. You will cry at times because you know you are not alone, but you still feel separated and dwarfed by a mass of people who might either not believe in you or even hate you. To be so different in a world that deifies the concept of normality is not an easy life. If you are this way, then you learn to accept and live with it, but there is no logical reason to wish for it. I do not believe in normality, but I still would not wish for someone to be so different and have to live so conflicted.

Finally, to all who wish to be bitten and "changed", please just ask yourself this one question: why do you want to be a werewolf? Tell me honestly that you think you have a good reason for changing what you are; one that it is actually worthwhile and not some selfish desire to change yourself because you cannot deal with your own problems in life. If you think you have a good and justified answer to this, then feel free to say it.
DeannaJo
I agree with all of your points.
Except having to add (on account of point 1 in your post) that, just because there is no solid evidence or scientific explanation available to the public, does not automatically and fully dismiss that possibility or render it completely and definitely untrue.
There is no real evidence of "born werewolves" or shifters, either...other than lore, written "testimonies" and personal accounts and experiences, which (let's face it) could be so easily dismissed due to questionable credibility. Yet, people apparently favor that option over "the bite", they even preach it and a lot of kids blindly worship that notion as an absolute truth.
Yes, you did not explicitly say that you exclude all possibility of physically-acquired lycanthropy, but it was somewhat implied. So, that is the only thing in your post I disagree with to some extent, but other than that - your post is pretty much true and smart.
However, I wouldn't hope people will learn from it. Posts like this one tend to fail reaching those who are too comfortable with their own idealistic fantasies to ever give them up.
DeannaJo
The reason no valuable information on the subject gets released to the public are people like you.
You aren't even worth arguing with, and even if I wanted to humor you and keep encouraging this pointless ranting of yours - I've already got a headache and I'd rather not make it worse by reading your incoherent hissy fits. Feel free to bitch at someone else, but at least have the decency to apply your "supermassive IQ" to using some punctuation. I understand you must be angry for not being debate champion here, but this isn't about winning a discussion. This is about knowledge. It's only conversation and you, child, are getting way too pissy and giving yourself too much credit. You are online, kid. All of this means nothing, at least not to me, because you have no valid arguments which would in any way affect or concern me and what I know to be true. How about you try doing something in the real world, with all your intelligence and capabilities? Do you think playing the big, bad, Mensa-smart teen online makes you seem as intelligent as you claim? No. A high IQ does not mean smart. I know geniuses with 180+ IQs, who are completely incompetent, life-wise. It's not how big it is - it's how you use it. That applies to a lot of things in life.
Now run along and bother someone else. I don't need to block you, nothing about you is significant enough for me to perceive as threatening or impossible to handle. All I'm going to do is ignore you, because that's what I do about small, meaningless things.
Take care now, don't strain that superintelligent brain too much.
AtheistWolf
Well sir, if I were making a formal essay I would use more punctuation.I use my brain very well but what you seem so hell bent on forgetting is these are my views. I'm simply saying my views then some one chooses to care about others opinions and has a hissy fit. I'm glad I can block out any emotions I don't like.
Drachona · 31-35, M
AtheistWolf, stop. You are doing nothing but perpetuating a useless argument. DeannaJo, I understand what you say, and I can tell you were frustrated. I would have suggested that you end this argument, but you have already provided it with one. Remember though, even if you are angry, their is a difference between supported statements about someone and just plain insulting words. No good end can come to a battle of insults. Rather, the conclusion must be either one of agreement or understanding. You two may not agree with each other, but this argument is relatively fruitless and has gathered more insults than genuine points. AtheistWolf, we all understand your perspective. Thus, there is no reason to repeat it unless you are asked to. More importantly, if someone insults you, you need to just ignore it. Responding in kind will get you nowhere. And, if you have to respond, do so maturely. Respond to the points raised and ignore the insults. If there are no points made and if there is no legitimate reason to respond, then do not bother to.
AtheistWolf
ok u realize that you have given no proof you are a real wolf
AtheistWolf
I never said I said hypothetically I'd want to be changed or if it is to be assumed werewolves are real then I'd want to be one which I have always said since I was 5
Drachona · 31-35, M
Okay, that is fine. I understand and respect your feelings.
AtheistWolf
Thank you
gwidean
I agree with everything you said it's completely right people just want to become werewolves selfish reasons

And you're right being one is not easy being so different is everything you want to keep quiet and to yourself because you don't understand how other people think however I still do not deny what iron
and I wouldn't change it even though it's been hard but people want it for selfish reasons thinking they're going to be so cool and strong and good girlfriend when in reality it will make them a loner and and a splinter from the rest of the world
Drachona · 31-35, M
You may not care about acceptance, AtheistWolf, but that does not take away from its importance. We are social animals, humans and wolves, and so we cannot afford to avoid other people. There may be people who do not like you or even hate you, but swearing off contact with people is like swearing off water because you got some that tasted bad or was contaminated. There are people who do not like me here or in other places. That does not stop me from doing what I do. The important thing is to ignore those who seek only to hurt you. Otherwise, it is only a waste of your time. In our particular case, being the case of werewolves, we definitely cannot afford to avoid acceptance. A lack of acceptance is precisely our problem. If you, personally, do not care about interaction with other people, that is your choice. However, for those who are mature enough to recognize the importance of social contact and acceptance, such avoidance is counter-productive.
AtheistWolf
I don't avoid social situations I simply say it's weak to expect everyone to accept you and people are Normally annoying af and not as open and blunt as me.
Drachona · 31-35, M
It is not weak, it is ignorant. Ignorance is not a crime, but it can have negative repercussions. And your statement of "fuck" other people gave me the impression that you try to avoid them. You may want to be more clear if that is not what you want to get across.
cassmorris1422
I like your writing because you are honest and brutal with it. Cheers for that. I think the reason so many people want to be werewolves is because many people on EP. that claim to be werewolves (they may or may not be) only show the good sides of the experience. They show the friendships that develop in the packs and the close ties wolves share, and they get to describe the exhilarating feeling of being free and shifting or just escaping. So, while I agree with all your thoughts on the matter I also cannot blame people for wanting to belong to the werewolf community. Even if (as you say) admitting you are one and living with it, is social hell. Knowing that other people deal with it as well helps.. Just food for thought. Happy Hunting
Chamberlane
My goodness woman, where have you been all of my EP life?!?!
cassmorris1422
lol blushing (;
Drachona · 31-35, M
There is a positive side. No one is beyond the ability to live a good life, even in the midst of certain difficulties or limitations. A positive perspective can see the good in even the most horrible. Being so optimistic can get you killed, but it can also keep you alive in the right situations. However, in this case, I focus on the negative side because it matters more. There is nothing about being a werewolf that justifies wanting to become one. The main reason for this is how society treats werewolves, or anyone of the like. My main points are that, to the best of my knowledge, the bite concept is not true and, even if it were, I have not seen one good reason why it should be done. No one has legitimately answered the question I pose at the end of my story, and that is because there is no real justified reason and, even if there were, most people are only asking to be changed just because they want to. Until I hear a good reason for being "changed", which I do not even believe exists, I will not even entertain the possibility of it.
LillyJillyFeather
Ooh yeah. I used to say I was a werewolf but my jerk-friend is like nonononono. Ok, I was just kidding her. It's fun to get her all flipped out. I'd love to slap that smirk of her fa--
*gasp* IDEEEEEEEAAA!!!
AtheistWolf
what idea wolves arent real technically
LillyJillyFeather
Uh, I meant, something for a group or whatever. But yes wolves are real (not werewolves)
AtheistWolf
of course wolves are real
Pyro8me
Eh, i already feel like an outsider, awkward, strange. I rather face my problems head on always and i do, and when im through it, id just try the werewolf character and still feel id act the same, be the same, if anything more attuned with my beast within lol.
juztAgurl
i wish every experience had a post similar to this i see a lot of people just talking from ignorance in a lot of these groups thanks for being real.
Drachona · 31-35, M
Thank you for your words. It is not easy to be "real" in the midst of such arrogant ignorance, but I wouldn't be here if I didn't care about the lives of these people and the quality of knowledge that they carry with them.
lonewolfdestiny
Three words... W.O.W. writing :) I don't want to become a werewolf... U just forget who u are...
lonewolfdestiny
wow = way over wonderful and when you become a werewolf it Is believed that you forget who you are and kills everything in your path :)
Drachona · 31-35, M
Well, thank you for your comment. And I am not sure I have ever heard of that concept. Movies propose that you shift and forget that it happened, but I have never heard of forgetting who you are. Again, cool story line, but not very logical when you think about it. Part of the reason why people do not believe in werewolves is because they have the image of a person who receives some sort of infection through bite that changes their genetic structure and they become wild, uncontrollable beasts with, apparently, no instinct to survive or fit in (especially since both humans and wolves are social animals, and neither are inherently "evil" or monstrous). Truth, in this case, is not as strange as fiction.
lonewolfdestiny
I guess... You are right...
soulessone
I thought you said wolves were real...
AtheistWolf
me i said possibly drachona says it is one personally im doubtful its likely its just a hollywood idea
soulessone
Yeah that's teue
Drachona · 31-35, M
AtheistWolf, if you are going to contribute, please figure out what you are arguing. You just said that werewolves are not real, then you turned around and said it is "doubtful". If you do not personally believe that werewolves are real, then express that clearly. However, do not present opinion as fact or anything more than what you think. And to Brookewolf, I never said that werewolves were not real. It is my argument that they are real, but I will not say they are beyond a doubt because I haven't the full support I need to make that statement. What is fact, however, is that I have more support for their existence than anyone has against their existence. I know this because there is a simple paradox, which I have presented before, that undermines most if not all of the counter-arguments. You will notice that I actually back up my statements whereas many people here simply blurt out their opinion and claim it as certain truth. And, again, this whole argument has nothing to do with my story. I was talking about the lack-logic of wanting to be bitten. For this story, you don't have to believe in werewolves to get the genuine argument that wanting to be bitten and "changed" makes little to no sense.
soulessone
Why are you ruining my hope...
Lykos75
AMEN sister!
Drachona · 31-35, M
Sister?

 
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