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I Support Gay Marriage [Gay Marriage]

The facts about gay marriage are these: Marriage was given to us by the God of the universe. It was meant to be between a man and a woman. People have freedom to do what they want to , but thinking that marriage is anything other than what God gave to man, that would be rebellion against God to think you can change the rules that God put in place. This is not hatred or bigotry or anything else to believe that it is anything other than the way God set it up. People will answer to God for the way they deal with this. Not anybody else. Not my opinion- it's God's Word.

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canusernamebemyusername · M

So these other types of marriage are perfectly okay too. And remember rape is perfectly okay too. Just no homo.

walabby · 61-69, M

@canusernamebemyusername No wanking either, as Onan discovered!

LadyGrace

You said: “My proof is in what occupies my heart. The Bible says, " the fool says in his heart there is no God. "

You’re not understanding something. The proof is also in your profile. Which is totally contradictory to your words in your posts. Your words and actions should match, if you’re going to claim to follow Christ. When I read your post, it sounded lovely, but when I read your profile to see if what you say, matches with your profile, I cringed. The Bible says a double minded man is unstable in all his ways. In other words, you cannot serve God and the world, too. I’m just wanting you to take a look at these things. They’re important.

walabby · 61-69, M

This is assuming that the "God" of the Bible actually exists..

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WalterF · 70-79, M

@walabby I agree with you. As I said, I hate religion. But I'm very very interested in a divine person that I can know. I suggest we stop this brief debate here. My lifelong personal experience has proved to me that God exists and that the Judeo-Christian scriptures give a lot of information about him. I would prefer that you didn't deny my experience on my behalf, or that you didn't belittle it. My recommendation to you is, say to God, look here mate, many people say you exist. I don't believe that. But I'm open to persuasion. If you exist, show me. - That act on your part would be a serious proof of integrity. And you never know what it might bring forth. All the best to you! Nice to chat.

Valerian · 100+, M

@lyle687276 Scary!

Valerian · 100+, M

@walabby Look up "[b]Chrestianity[/b]"
It was a competing Religion for Jews at that time! [u]Even before Christ appeared!![/u]
Many Chrestian ideas are folded in Christian teachings. Dig around, it's interesting.

It's like the 2 Religious Entities melded together in some areas during that time and chose to link to Christ for Popularity's sake.

northerncountrygirl2000 · 36-40, F

1) Show me where it was strictly defined as "meant to be between a man and a woman"? Because, last I checked, there was more than 1 "definition" of "marriage" in the Christian Bible...and though I'm sure your point is probably that the definitions are not "a man & a man" or "a woman & a woman", I can assure you there is more than just "ONE man & ONE woman" in that list...

2) There is no proof that the specific God you speak of is any more real or relevant than any other God...So I refuse to believe that your claim that it was "given to us by the God of the Universe." -.- Not to mention the fact that, last I remember, the Bible doesn't actually claim God himself said anything about marriage being between a man and a woman. (Though, I suppose it is possible it may be worded differently in a version I haven't read.)

3) Don't try offering me the same response I've seen you post about "read Romans 1. I dare you!" -.- I have read it, several times...The entire Bible in fact...A couple variations of it...That would be why I'm a non-believer, or "atheist" if you want to put a label on it...So that "comeback back" won't work.

ArishMell · 70-79, M

Isn't it rather disingenuous to state that people have freedom then deny them those freedoms that do not actually harm you, but undermine what you believe one particular deity wants?

Yes, you could argue for marriage between male and female as the human social construction regulating our natural mating instincts; historically it has long been given a religious veneer for church-authority purposes, with parallels in many religions, not just Judaeo-Christianity; you might believe in M/F "holy matrimony"...

... but the same-sex couples are not attacking your version of marriage, so why attack theirs?

As for Biblical quotes... they merely repeat the beliefs of a Late Bronze Age to Roman Empire, originally-tribal, society in a small part of the Middle East. They don't prove anything other than their own existence as ancient beliefs.

"rule... for 1000 years" Hmmm.

LadyGrace

You are very confusing. You speak against many things then in your profile under “Groups” you chose “I Took a Photo of My Sister In the Shower”. Then you go on and on about spankings and how you are open to new sexual experiences. All this contradicts your post. Then you say “People will answer to God for the way they deal with this? ??? I see your talk, but I don’t see the “walk” and that’s observation, not judging.

LadyGrace

@WalterF....You refer to God, if I am not mistaken, as a “thing that KILLS and always has done” am I right? If so, I’d like to address that.

There’s another side to that. It is BECAUSE there is a hell, that Jesus suffered and endured all that He did on the cross...in order that through Him, we could be saved...and our sins which separate us from God the Father, PAID. Jesus did that for everyone’s benefit. Or would we rather the alternative? God is fair...Sin, is not!

David simply says in the Psalms, "and he judges the world with righteousness; he judges the peoples with uprightness" (Psalm 9:8).

Was it “fair” that Jesus had to suffer and die in order to pay for your sins on the cross? Indeed, for us all? Was it fair that He took your place and mine on the cross, when it is He who knew no sin? That should tell you, alone, just how much Jesus loves you. He laid down His very life, to save yours. That certainly doesn’t describe a God who is out to destroy people. He is not willing that ANY should perish.

The fact is, there is a way to escape hell and the sin that brings judgment upon us. God is indeed just, but He is also love, and in His love He took our sins upon Himself at the cross. Christ paid the judgment in full so that we don't have to face hell. Paul writes, "but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since, therefore, we have now been justified by His blood, much more shall we be saved by Him." (Romans 5:8–9).

On an American troopship, the soldiers crowded around their chaplain, asking, "Do you believe in hell?" "I do not", replied the chaplain. "Well, then, will you please resign, for if there is no hell, we do not need you, and if there is a hell, we do not wish to be led astray."

If there is no hell, then there is no need for a cross or a Savior. But hell is very real, and as Christian author Os Guinness says, "For some, Hell is simply a truth realized too late." It is a sobering fact that those who choose to reject Jesus in this life will have their request honored in the next by a loving God who will indeed acquiesce to their wishes and send them to the choice they themselves have made.

Piffypie · 26-30, F

If they believe God is the most powerful being in the universe, why do we have to punish the " Sinners " if he didnt want gays to get married, or even exist for that matter why not just strike them with lightning? lol the bible says " Thou Shalt not Kill " But yet in the old testament it says to put Gay people to death? Doesn't that totally contradict itself? What i believe happened is that Jesus's True Teaches have been re written by some Old Kings and religious figures that seen the power the bible had with people, to support their own fucked up needs, like saying Slavery is ok, and rape is ok, yet tries to talk about love thy neighbor at the same time? Come on now lmao

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lyle687276 · 70-79, M

Telling you you are ignorant was not meant to be a cut to you sorry

lyle687276 · 70-79, M

I'm saying find out for yourself! The OT was about creation and the nation of Israel. It also has many prophesies of Jesus that have been fulfilled to the letter. The NT tells of the coming of Christ and about the new covenant God made with man through what He did.

lyle687276 · 70-79, M

@Piffypie What Jesus do you know? The one I know is pretty clear on doctrine

SW-User

I agree but i don't think the argument depends on whether God exists or not. Let's put that aside. There is simply no rational ground for treating relationships between two people of the same sex as marriage. We are by nature, by our deepest biology, a sexually reproducing species which depends on the sexes coming together in sexual union, the one and only kind of sex that is capable of producing new life. The offspring of that conjugal union go through a very long period of maturation during which both young and their mother need to be protected and provided for by the father. That is why all the early legal codes, even from millennia ago, were primarily about fatherhood, instituting marriage as a way of institutionalizing fatherhood as a legal, social, moral obligation enforceable in law. It's why in all societies, including those that were most "gay-friendly" - i.e., most supportive and appreciative of gay (including man-boy) relationships - never confused those relationships or that kind of sexual activity with marriage. The new state-enforced orthodoxy detaches the institution of marriage from its nature and purpose - delinking sex from procreation, children from their natural parents - and reduces marriage to a kind of state-registered friendship. Even worse is the tyrannical way media, courts, schools, and elites generally seek to impose this new dogma on society and stamp out free speech and, yes, freedom of religion also.

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lyle687276 · 70-79, M

@SW-User I really appreciate your enthusiasm about life and Spanking, Emily. I know you said that you do not send pictures, but even a very nice one of you i would so lije to see. But just tell me it is not possible if that is the case.

SW-User

@lyle687276 sorry sir, not possible

LadyGrace

Really??? You’re very obvious. @lyle687276

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LadyGrace

And don’t forget fetish spankings, as an excuse to see children naked, which is abusive as well. I think pedophiles deserve hard punishment/prison time, too. A good, long time.

God does not categorize sin. One sin to Him, is no worse than another sin, because [u]all sin[/u] separates us from God, per His Word. His Word says so. @preacherman

walabby · 61-69, M

@preacherman Don't forget that God in his wisdom made approximately 2 1/2 % of all humans hard core gay, about the same amount of left handed people, and we've only stopped persecuting people for that in the last few decades...

Pherick · 41-45, M

OK I read Romans 1 ... still no idea why I did.

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walabby · 61-69, M

@lyle687276 You just quoted the Bible to show that the Bible is accurate! :D
You believe what you want... :)

lyle687276 · 70-79, M

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Do you believe in an afterlife?

Sharon · F

@lyle687276 [quote] You disregard God's word at your peril when you die and are judged by it.[/quote]
So how are you going to explain yourself to Odin when you meet Him at the Doors to Valhalla? You better start getting your story ready.

Butterflykisses24 · 51-55, F

Please keep your opinions to yourself.God loves all.

LadyGrace

Your article is very confusing to people, I think. Your under the title of "I SUPPORT gay marriage", then day just the opposite in your post.

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Ellen · 46-50, F

@Hannahbanana1 It is!!

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walabby · 61-69, M

Keeping in mind that homosexual orientation is NOT a choice, and that God made something like one person in 40, hard core homosexual.

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lyle687276 · 70-79, M

@Sharon Lol. My God is your God , too. He loved you enough to send His Son to deal with your sin.

Sharon · F

@lyle687276 [quote]My God is your God , [/quote]
No, your fake god is nothing to do with me nor I with it.

[quote]to send His Son to deal with your sin.[/quote]
What sin? As your god doesn't exist it couldn't send anyone to do anything anyway. It's all in your mind.

I'm still waiting to hear how you plan to explain yourself to Odin when you meet Him at the Doors to Valhalla.

walabby · 61-69, M

@lyle687276 ...but Isiah 45:7 says that He created evil. Is sin not evil?

Pherick · 41-45, M

Thats all fine and dandy, just of course depends on god being real. Personally, I checked with Odin and he is down with gay marriage, so I feel relieved.

lyle687276 · 70-79, M

Prophecies-- that Jesus would be born of a virgin woman. That he would be crucified. That he would be betrayed for 30 pieces of silver. That he would enter Jerusalem as the recognized Messiah on the very day that the prophet Daniel reported nearly 500 years earlier. There's more too. The biggest ones are yet to be fulfilled. He is returning in judgment at a time we do not know. He will rule and reign over the earth for a 1000 years, then we will enter eternity with Him. Will you be there?

lyle687276 · 70-79, M

I think I struck a nerve with this ! If I can get one person to go to the Bible and see what God says about it, I'm happy!

lyle687276 · 70-79, M

You say that you have read The entire Bible that is commendable! I would pray that you read the next time with open ears and eyes. Romans 1 is a very good place to talk about the subject we are debating. Are you up for it? Can you have an argument without getting insulted? I can. And I am willing to discuss this with you.

northerncountrygirl2000 · 36-40, F

@lyle687276 I am not easily insulted by mere words, so as long as it is respectful, then yes..I can I have a discussion without getting offended/insulted.

As for reading it "next time" with open eyes? I doubt that'll happen. I've read it enough times already, thanks. Both while going to church and being raised in the different denominations, as well as reading it a couple times since leaving "the faith." I think I'm good.
It's a fun story and all, what with the death and zombies and all that, but definitely not a favorite..and a bit tough to read after the first time 🤷🏼‍♀️

lyle687276 · 70-79, M

@northerncountrygirl2000 so you don't think that you might have a personal sin problem with God? What about it is so hard to swallow?

northerncountrygirl2000 · 36-40, F

No...Not at all.
But, for the sake of this & to give a possibly better answer, what are you considering a "personal sin problem"??

What about what is hard to swallow?? Religion? The Bible? God?
None of it is necessarily "hard to swallow" in any sense. Is it possible that a man named Jesus lived? Sure. Did he turn water to wine? Doubtful.
You talk of prophecies...But, where is the proof it happened? (NOT in the Bible I mean.) You can't use the Bible, to prove the Bible is true. It would be like me using the book Dracula, to prove Dracula is real. Where is the proof outside the book??

lyle687276 · 70-79, M

The Bible says, not me, that all sin is not acceptable and punishable by death. Homosexuality is a result of the Fall of man. It is part of the curse put on the earth until Jesus returns. Take it up with God. Read Romans 1. I dare you!

Pherick · 41-45, M

@lyle687276 Like I said, I checked with Odin, don't worry we are cool. I mean Odin is a god and your guy is a god, so either one works.

Ellen · 46-50, F

OK..Whatever.

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Ellen · 46-50, F

@lyle687276 Sorry. Not really interested to. But you're certainly free to believe as you choose.

lyle687276 · 70-79, M

@Ellen please, it's really interesting to me what your reason might be that you have no interest in God

Ellen · 46-50, F

@lyle687276 Not interested in discussing it. That's why I shrugged. Believe what you want. It's fine. I've heard all kinds of reasons why I can't marry my gf. But it's nice now that we can marry if we choose.

charlie226 · M

[quote]it's God's Word[/quote]

So proof of any authority whatsoever?

Valerian · 100+, M

Are you even sure there's a "Marriage" mentioned in the Bible?
The words husband and wife are there.
But are "marry, married, marriage" as words in there?
Did Jesus " Marry" any couples?

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Pherick · 41-45, M

@RemovedUser607094 None of that means anything unless you have a real source for it, which I highly doubt.

Fuck, I actually read this, Reported.

ArishMell · 70-79, M

@RemovedUser607094 Tt would be normal practice to cite your source, not only for the readers of your repeat, but out of courtesy to the authors of what could if nothing else be copyrighted material.

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