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BREXIT and Cleveland winning a Championship... Best Week Ever?

Poll - Total Votes: 7
YES! BREXIT and Cleveland winning Championships are HUGE!
NO! It ain't about nothing...
Huh? What are you talking about?
Doom & Gloom: Oh no... I can't believe this is happening
Uh, ok... that's nice... can you please pass the butter?
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So...what do you think? Did the world turn upside down?
SW-User
I understand. I haven't posted my thoughts yet, but I think it will get worse for a while, but once things settle... it will open up massive opportunities.
SW-User
Everyone has a right to how they feel. My thoughts are they have liberated themselves from a form of governance that wasn't accountable to them, and now they will succeed, or not, on their own accord. The economics will work themselves out, and I doubt needing a passport is such a downer.
GlassDog · 41-45, M
As a former European, and soon to no longer be British, just English, I'd say this is one of the worst days of my life. How would you feel if your state decided to divorce itself from America, use a different currency, and made it difficult for you to travel or buy things from anywhere in America? I feel isolated in a country I no longer recognise.
GlassDog · 41-45, M
I'd agree in part on this. It's badly in need of reform, and I'd say quite serious reform. I wouldn't have any credibility if I didn't say it's bureaucratic and often wasteful (like all government). But I doubt anyone would argue for the dismantling of federated states that work well together. So why dismantle ones where the central government is not working as we want? If the problem resolves around governance, change the governance. You fix what is broken, rather than run away from it.
GlassDog · 41-45, M
To an extent, yes. It's clearly been a problem and how the parliament, the commission, and the council work is hugely confusing, even to politicians. They've certainly been a little intolerant to reform originating from Britain as we're kind of the black sheep (joining late, and resisting a shared currency). But we do have clout, in particular in security and our sanctions against Putin. He will relish a weaker Europe, and Russia are perhaps now the prime beneficiaries of this decision.
GlassDog · 41-45, M
That's one of the "leave" arguments and like most, is misleading and intended to deceive. The EU Commission president is elected by a European parliamentary majority with the parliament made up representatively by member state (a bit like the electoral college). It's a system I favoured over the British system where ward boundaries are redrawn to favour a political party.
GlassDog · 41-45, M
What is the issue with having both federal law and state law? The United States don't seem to suffer too badly with that arrangement, so why would the nation states of Europe?
SW-User
So we are looking at two different approaches then... to the same issue. I think it's different between sovereign nations, but I do understand your argument.
My thinking is ... that the EU has resisted any reform no matter what the voters say - over the last 20 years... in a consistent pattern. See the various votes from Denmark, Iceland, France, etc.
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SW-User
I disagree...it's too distant to be responsive to the constituents. It's not misleading... and what's more.. European bureaucrats in Brussels don't even have direct line responsibility and accountability to the European Parliament.
SW-User
That's fine. The thing is that the EU bureaucrats were completely unaccounted for. Do you know the EU has a President, and she/he is not even elected... imagine the effect in the last 30 years of unaccounted bureaucrats.
WiltingRose · 26-30, F
Idk who Cleveland is, but with Brexit...things don't look so good already. Hopefully things will start to pick up. I am concerned.
SW-User
That's true. We'll have to work that out... the response to Russia.
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