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I Don't Think Gender Roles and Stereotypes Should Exist


While I don't necessarily think this is the "patriarchy"'s fault, it definitely is society's with its idea that males have to act and express themselves masculinely while females have to look and behave femininely, even if it's against an individual's nature and preferences.
Gender is such a stupid and outdated concept that we should all just leave behind and make a thing of the past.
KaiserSolze46-50, F
Basically I am man except I need to get some abs. Hurts more to get punched if you're a bit flabby 馃槀 Oh and I like cats because they catch mice and can bake, I sold my cakes for a while.

Therefore I kind of agree with you. However being able to fix, cars, hate pink, will stand my ground etc etc. I still like to be a woman at home. I can deal with a guy who's frightened of spiders but other than that I want a "man"

I would love to agree with you. I really really would especially as I do get discrimination a little bit, have to prove myself to every mechanic I ever work with but that goes for men too really so I don't actually think it's gender based.

Anyway there's just this inherent problem. Alot of straight women love men to be stereotype men myself included.

For me I need an accomplished intelligent man who has a presence that emits authority, is in control of his life and I need to trust him implicitly because I can take a washing machine apart and put it back together, have no problem fighting a man if he hits me first (which they have), can manage my life on my own but in a relationship I still want to feel like a "woman"

I wish it wasn't so. I've been in a relationship with a very weak man and I felt constantly irritated. I incorrectly connected a battery charger to my car battery, couldn't read a map, I had to argue his battles. I also tried dating a sexually submissive guy who was in all other ways compatible but I couldn't stomach being sexually dominant.

So as much as on the surface I fit the list above and by that could be considered a "man" I am still a woman and I want a man.

Men who fit the above I'm sure still are men. Yes there's nothing wrong with being a man that is like this. I have 3 sons - 2 very boy and the third the other two call him gay but I think he's just a bit feminine. Yes he is male as much as the other two. We should throw away gender stereotypes but I think often it is inherent in us.

The people outside the norm are ok to be outside the norm but it doesn't mean there needs to be more. The norm is the norm because it's what people are like. My 3 boys are all just how they are, they don't choose it. I wouldn't want the boisterous two to be forced to be different the same way I wouldn't want my more feminine son to be forced to be different.

He gets called gay at school and people want to fight him. He says "is that all you have to say. I got stuff to do I'm not fighting you" and when he got jumped in the park he laid on the floor and the boys started kicking him on the floor and he laughed, they got confused and walked off - his brothers try to fight him all the time, he squeals like a girl. They try to "toughen" him up and worry about him. But he's fine. In school because he reacts how he does - someone tries to punch him he just blocks them but doesn't hit them back - the other boys are just used to him now. They accept him. He says or does something feminine and they laugh now instead of taking some kind of offence and try to fight him.

So I think the "norm" is the norm. Yes it's ok to be different but it has to be accepted that different is different. So what.

My boys know they can do all those things on that list but 2 of them don't want to, simple as that.
KaiserSolze46-50, F
@Emosaur I was saying you can't force people to be outside the norm the same as you can't force people to be inside it and that I wouldn't want that because despite being outside the norm myself I want a guy pretty much inside the norm.
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KaiserSolze46-50, F
@Emosaur no lol I'm worried of people being pressured by society to be the reverse of what they are regardless of which way society is pushing them. 脌t the moment men seem to be pushed to be more sensitive etc.

My sons who are boisterous are also sensitive. They're more private about it than my more "feminine" son but it doesn't mean it's not there in them to be caring and sensitive.

I mentioned how I prefer "manly" men because I was going to argue that it's a nature thing. Women like "strong" men so men are like that. But then I got distracted because my boys are an example of how nature works really. They were just born how they are. Trying to force any of them to be different would be awful. I do think there's more of a risk at the moment for stereotype "manly" men to be forced to be different than there is for "feminine" trait men to be forced to be manly.

On the other hand it is better if society could throw all the stereo types out the window and accept people as they are.
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djjohnson41-45, M
the problem with change is that when it happens it swings too far the other way. In this day and age it's true the people tease their peers for the things listed above but it's also true a lot of boy get in trouble be behaving like boys. Especially in school. To be a typical male in this day and age is treated as a bad thing in the media and social media.
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Men act the way they act mainly because of testosterone. The same is true for women with estrogen. The variation come with individual changes in hormones.
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Most 'abnormal' gender behavior is just a variation in the person's hormone balance. Normal is subjective and I rarely see negative judgements based on that in my everyday life.
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ChiTownGirl26-30, F
I don't understand the "fluid gender" thing. I still think you are one or the other.
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ChiTownGirl26-30, F
I guess this is something we will not agree on. I know I'll never grow a penis so I'll always consider myself female (thank god)
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