Do you feel you register with one personality type or another?

I've mostly just used many other words to communicate the same thing, though I'm not sure how understanding people would be if I simplified that much.

@Winterwanderer: They'd adapt. ;)

🤓 witty witty.

Yeah, I mean, I definitely don't give too much weight to it & its conclusions, but it [i]is[/i] one of the best methods of understanding certain aspects of humanity.

But humans are complex & chaotic, affected by many different things at many different points in life, I don't believe that we all necessarily have set or fixed personalities, but that they're constantly changed (by us, or when we allow other things to affect them). And more, like you said, the system is full of many many factors, known & unknown, humans are like nature in that they're entropic, but unlike it in their order.

@Winterwanderer: The human mind is a highly mutable thing, people try to make it out to be far more static than it really is. Though I wouldn't go so far as to say we are in any way separate from nature, we are a part of it and no different from all the rest. A tiny little collection of cogs made of greasy dust in a grand cosmic scaled machine.

Well I'd say we're both distinct yet inseparable from nature, we are very different from the rest of nature in many ways, yet we have that complexity still.

Mutable, I freaking love that as a description of the mind, very precise, I will use that word later.

Very INFP-ish.

@UndeadPrivateer:
@Winterwanderer:

It should be called bothverted lol and good on you guys 👍💘

Dude, Dewms, I'm literally gonna say that from now on.

@Winterwanderer: 🤣🤣

I feel like I've cross-pollinated with a bunch of people, I've always been someone who's open to ideas & change, even if it's uncomfortable & to myself.

I feel that I've changed myself in many ways & absorbed aspects of many different people's personalities that I admired or saw some need to adapt into my own life?

Or something, I don't really understand myself well or how I came to be as I am (some would define this as INTPs inferior Fe).

Or something.

@SwanSongRebeL: I am beginning to think its a South African thing 🤣

I want to buy into aspects of it, but like you said, it can by no means capture the complexity of humanity, all of the different factors that affect them.

@Winterwanderer: Personality models are a tool first and foremost, and to use them for anything they aren't designed for is of dubious practicality

But even for what they're designed for they're still dubiously practical.

If anything, to me the method of distinction is interesting to me, contrasting these specific aspects & allowing 'functions ' to differentiate further still within a type, but the typing itself is dubious which makes its extensions dubious as well.

I do not believe that the personality is fixed, nor do I believe today it is strictly biochemical, but also affected by the culture & environment (the situations & conditions which the individual is subject to), but I believe fundamentally free will decides, mostly nothing else. Most anything that a person does is by his will, whether he actively chose it or passively allowed it to happen, or caused it to happen by other means.

I think what this personality test captures well is how people tend to interact with the world, and its acceptance reveals people's disposition towards certain extremes, often choosing one & not the other (maybe so as to prevent cognitive dissonance?)

Woah man, I can't tell if your indignation is directed towards me, but that would be a bad accusation.

My post questions the validity of these personality tests, seeking justifications for weaknesses in the psychology.

I think it's fairly easy to find reasons why people choose to categorize things, it's easy, it's attractive, & it's often uncomfortable not to - to have something be unknown or unknowable - it's a fear of mankind's.

@Winterwanderer: Nothing is directed at you. But you just highlighted exactly what I have an issue with..

"it's often [b]uncomfortable[/b] not to" and also "to have something be [b]unknown or unknowable - it's a fear of mankind'[/b]s"...

That is PRECISELY how I prefer to be.. I do not want anyone being able to place me into any category, because that opens the door to manipulation. I guess that's why most call me a "Mystery"

Yeah, but many people are predictable, many people are more easily categorized, though I think that does not necessarily reveal human nature.

I wouldn't mind being understood, I certainly enjoy the effort, but that's because I'm so complex & it shows real effort to discover the nature of my being. I crave to be understood, to have empathy & sympathy (& to exhibit it), but I don't think the test will suffice, it's too general & impersonal.

Men are often prisoners to their fear, directed too & fro, or in your words, manipulated.

An omnivert or an ambivert as people call it.

Have you taken the test multiple times?

twice took a test and came with that answer

And it describes you well? Your empathy & understanding of people & concepts?

Dude! Freaking yes, I love to meet other 'INFJs'.

@Winterwanderer: There's not too many around lol

I feel that there are so many things that people who are typed as INFJ can relate with, especially men.

If only it were that simple, I've already tried that, my results are inconsistent because my answers are inconsistent, though I think he questions & multiple premises are incorrectly assumed & therefore elicit imprecise & inaccurate results as well.