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SW-User
What if the Country is fundamentally fkd??
Cierzo · M
Love your fkd country
SW-User
I agree with the sentiment but Pretty hard if you're a Syrian mother trying to find a safe place for your kids..@Cierzo:
Cierzo · M
@Lemony: Then is it Syria to be blamed or ISIS or Al-Qaeda?
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SW-User
I think it would a basic hate of where you are. The country you would have loved is gone..@Cierzo:
Cierzo · M
@tolerantmongoose: Very well said
SW-User
@tolerantmongoose: ok thank you for the education. I take it you are Syrian?
Northwest · M
@Lemony: Why would Syrians hate their culture? They are affected by the war, and trying to find refuge, does not mean that they reject their "families". Culture is pretty complex, and you can reject parts of it, but still belong to that culture and be proud of it.

Politics does not define culture.
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SW-User
I didn't mention culture at all. Your words..I said Country. as far as I am concerned the country is separate to the culture.@Northwest:
SW-User
@tolerantmongoose: common sense is meaningless. This is about opinion.
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SW-User
Of course! Every discussion must end with an insult to my country (which I love btw along with the culture). I feel Sorry you can't find another way to make your point.
Northwest · M
@Lemony: Culture, at the Macro level, defines the Country. At the Micro Level, various groups have their own sub-cultures.
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SW-User
In my opinion (for that is all it is) as I said at the start-as a mother in Syria (which is what I was talking about)if your country is at war and you are being targeted day in day out your daily existence is defined by protecting your children and struggling for survival the country becomes somewhere you lose respect for. This was my point. I wasn't talking about culture or them losing respect or love for that which will always be there I was talking about what the country has become. Perhaps if you talked to some people from Syria it would make more sense. At this point they are no longer able to philosophise as you do the country has become to them a place of fear and somewhere they will never return. Their culture is not linked to this as to them the country as it is now is no longer recognisable @Northwest:
SW-User
@tolerantmongoose: ok no insult at all then! I of course am solely responsible for the Iraq war and am Syrian phobic. Thanks for making it clear.
Northwest · M
@Lemony: Perhaps you should not make assumptions, such as "Perhaps if you talked to some people form Syria".

As it happens, I do talk to people from Syria, frequently, and in their native language.

I've yet to hear one of them complain about their country, or culture. Depending on the subgroup they come from, they have problems with Assad, Russia, ISIS, Al Nusra Group, the US, the UK, Germany, etc.
SW-User
I'm not assuming anything. I am perfectly aware of the perceptionof the countries you mentioned. Perhaps you should not assume the people you converse with speak for everyone. Again I didn't mention culture. @Northwest:
Northwest · M
@Lemony:

[quote]I'm not assuming anything.[/quote]

Not really.

[quote]Perhaps if you talked to some people from Syria it would make more sense.[/quote]

Country or culture, it's the same thing. While they're interested in survival, at this point, no they don't hate their country.
SW-User
Ok. @Northwest: