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do we have a Choice?

now this is just my opinion, im not saying im right, I just hate how are either too terrified to say how they feel, or dont know how to treat others with respect

NOW, if anyone on here knows me by now, youll know i like to be blunt, but try to be respectful

I hear alot of talk of "Its not my choice, thats just how it is" ....no....thats not true, but before you tie me up and call me a witch, demon, heretic, commie, or bigot, just read what im saying:

when you speak, think, feel, act, those are all things you can impact, and saying you have no choice is dumb, you always have a choice, BUT IM NOT SAYING its a good choice:

some good examples:

I have Ticks, like Tortures, not bugs lol, some basic face spasms, though these days extremely rare. now while yes, actions engaged by your body that come from more of a muscle spasm like an involuntary tick or spasm dont count because you cant say no, but mine I can, it is very uncomfortable to fight them, but i still can if i want, however its a more natural option to just let them go.

also , sexuality, yes i know, but just trust me, now I hear "sexuality is not a choice" i dont like that, I feel like a better way to say it is that that particular sexuality is a more natural choice than others, your never forced by your brain to be gay, but an upbringing in a family with 2 very happy fathers would probably guide some to feel that being gay is the most comfortable or logical outcome, anmd in that situation being anything else may strange or uncomfortable for you personally

im my case, im a white straight christian guy, raised by a very christian mum. did i choose to be a 'God-boy'? sure did, mum drilled it into us certainly, but I still decided that it was the best choice for me, same with being straight, not that mums sexist, but she used to be a super traditional christian, its not that I 'cant' be gay, I just, dont feel comfortable being gay myself due to factors of myself and my upbringing

im sure i missed lots of shit, but im sick, and felt like discussing this, even with a dopey flu-brain. Im not say other opinions are wrong, obviously that would be closed minded of me. and yes some of this is very "no shit" , but other areas like sexuality are a complex and fascinating discussion.
Footsugar123M
Well you didn't offend me by your post. I personally think that you are right and wrong to
I'm sure some of the things I was raised with had a bearing on being gay. It's that old nature of nurture way of thinking. I was brought up in a large family 5 brothers 6 sisters. My step-father wasn't a caring man and physically abused us and made us hate him. Mom loved us of course. But we weren't babied. We went to church and all that. Mom trying to instill those values on us children. I had bad things happen to me and I'm sure all those things effected who I am today. Now I knew from a early age that something was different about me, I wasn't like the other boys my age, I liked doing boy things but I did girl things to. I fell in love with my best friend at age 10 and I knew what the difference was then. I have liked a few females and even raised four children with one. But Im gay. Nature is funny love caused me to be with her and be a straight man for 19 yrs but I was also gay. I know your probably thinking he was bi but that is wrong. I had a love that made me feel I wanted to be with this woman. We parted ways and I decided that being gay made me feel like I was whole and happy after all that I was raised knowing about how a man was supposed to like females and things like that it was that way I felt as a boy that urged me to where I am. The knowing that I like men. So I guess it was both nature and nurture, the nature I couldn't fight at the end of the day. I don't know if I made a point or not honestly. In my mind I was sure trying to. I guess I'm say that being gay was in my nature, I was born with it. It's a combination of all the things the way we was raised we can choose to do or not. I don't know how else to explain it right now lol 馃槀
Picklebobble256-60, M
I'm not sure whether to bawl you out for some pretty unjustified fundamentalist thinking or just pass it off as you being young and not very understanding or experienced in life.

But. Word to the wise,Saying that you're 'blunt' doesn't excuse you from the way you speak to people. Nor the way that type of behaviour is acceptable given how it leaves other people feeling as a result.
And if you know this already, being 'blunt' is just you being an opinionated ass !

Describing yourself as Straight. White. and Christian is kinda 70's KKK given how most folk might describe themselves as just young and straight. And even then, only if it was relevant.
To prove that, replace straight. White. Christian with Gay. Asian. Muslim.
Re-reading your post as if it were written by somebody who described themselves as Gay Asian Muslim, what would YOU make of THAT ?

"Mum was a super-traditional Christian" I read that and had a flash of 'Little house on the prairie'. If that's what you meant it may explain your thinking.
HeWhoLaughs26-30, M
@Picklebobble2 soooo, instead of calmly saying i may have said things poorly, or etc. you think its better to both call me an ass and bacically call me a nazi? ...why? if you dissagree, then fair enough, i never said i was right, but dude, chill. and i said straight white and christian because i thought many would get the idea that yeah i had a pretty generic white guy in a white christian family upbringing, im not gonna be too afraid to say im white or christian just cause people associate that with hateful nazis.

maybe the post does sound dumb but shit dude, maybe try to give people a chance before you throw old bitchy comments at them. maybe instead ask " why is he or she posting that? what is it trying to achieve".

before your any ruder my point was that, ONE I PERSONALLY BELIEVE that things like sexuality arent necessarily a fixed choice, but a natural or logical decision that your experiences often push you towards, making other things like sexualities less comfortable to you.

AND TWO that there is always a choice, even a bad outcome is still technically s choice.
HeWhoLaughs26-30, M
@Marta something tells me i should stay off this website while im this sick and dopey

 
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