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In your opinion, what do you think about fat acceptance?

In my opinion, yes, we all have to respect everyone whether they are different and accept them for who they are. But, I don't like the idea of fat acceptance. People with overweight body is unhealthy, and that is a fact! They can live with many sicknesses due to their unhealthy body. And support them to stay in their body is a bad idea! Instead of judging them for their size, why don't we support them to become healthy? I mean become healthy is not about having a nice, fit body. It's about keeping balance in health and have a healthy lifestyle.

What do you think?
katielass · F
How about we mind our own business.
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@SW-User Busy with texting and ignore everyone around you when they talk to you is selfish! You live in your world so long that you thought you are living in a real world! And you assume that everyone talks with you, while you are texting, is selfish. But you don't realize that you are selfish.

And you only think about the bad side of everyone but not yourself, which means that you are selfish!
[c=#359E00]this post is a perfect showcase of individualism at their best form : 'mind your own business' i think.. this is the reason why people that live in individualistic society tend to sad and depressed, because they have no one to talk, share and care, they essentially minding their own business. Friendly attitude, sharing, caring is fake act and sugar coated words, human relationship is become fake and they desperately looking fake substitute for love, of course we will often heard that they have great love from partner, family or blablabla but then again it's just a fake and fragile relationship because basicly they just care their own business. Okay, done[/c]
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BayouBoudin · 36-40, M
Absolute terrible Idea. Fat people are a strain on society. They weigh down the healthcare system. They cause our insurance to be higher. They make our flights uncomfortable. They all want to say they have a medical condition. No, they are just fat. Obesity causes problems.
Batman · 41-45, M
You should read “Why We Get Fat” great read:
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BayouBoudin · 36-40, M
@MalteseFalconPunch Yes, it is choice.
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
I agree with the sentiment that we act like assholes to fat people too much. Though it still isn't a healthy body.
TexChik · F
I try to do that ... obesity is a tough disease ... in most cases it’s a lack of self discipline ... and those individuals feel trapped ! I watched as the ladies ( secretaries and a few lawyers ) hired a nutritionist to come in to the office after work and on Saturdays to get 30 of them on the right track with their diet. She was a keto guru of sorts. She laid out specific diets for 3 weight groups ... worked the individuals when they plateaued , brought recipes and actually made stuff to try . They took off with it ! Then the exercise guy came in and turned our break room into a gym . Taught them what to do . They really did well ... always cooking extra stuff for each other to try . Shared recipes . In 9 months 4 lost over 100 pounds , the average weight loss was 40 pounds ! They look amazing , feel amazing , and none are diabetics or need BP meds any longer . Their worst complaint was their clothes ... had to replace their wardrobes . Point is it’s doable ... it’s not simply easy but very doable . That is what I wish for those who have given up ... get into keto !!
TexChik · F
Freedom and the right to choose are still part of what America stands for ... at least in Red States ...
TexChik · F
@Shaman hahahaha .... ! Rejecting your pathetic power trip is my right ... deal with it
Chickie · F
@TexChik Also, the red States are the fattest states
TexChik · F
@Chickie and Blue states are the most corrupt .
TheJudgerNautSquared · 41-45, M
There is just so much nuance to this problem that there really is no easy answer. We live in such an intertwined society that all of our actions have consequences for others. Obesity drives up healthcare costs for all but at the same time, the majority of obese people here in the US live below the poverty line. It is becoming a problem for everyone. Like I said though, there is a lot more going on here than just "get unfat!" Fat shaming does tend to work in certain environments where health and appearance are steeped in local culture but it certainly would not be effective here in the western world. Especially given the fact that obesity here in the US can often be attributed to, or a symptom of, another mental or physiological condition such as depression or organ failure. One thing I think would help is if we were to put more restrictions on EBT as to what kinds of food products can be purchased with the funds. Subsidize more fruits and vegetables while removing subsidies for corn and meat products. Corn being so cheap and heavily subsidized has made meat much cheaper, and much cheaper meat has led to unhealthy proportions at meal times. Not only will it drive up the prices of meat, but unhealthy corn based snack foods as well. People need to learn moderation. There is certainly a lot that can be done but then again there's the argument of government interference with individual freedoms.
I think our society shames bigger bodies in general when compared to the norm. One might call someone fat and say they are overweight. But overweight to one might be healthy for another, it is subjective to body type and many other factors.
I would be healthy if people stopped worrying about their size and more about their health, what they eat, drink, snack, etc. Even small people can be unhealthy it is just people tend to be blinded by size and think that the size of a person tells all about their body.
I think fat acceptance is only wrong when they say "eat whatever you want, it doesn't matter" because it does matter. I think it's pretty terrible that so many people in America die from heart disease, which is preventable with a good diet. It just seems like something that in many cases is so easy to prevent is so widespread.
I sometimes feel that fat acceptance pushes other issues under the rug. But it is important to learn to love your body nevertheless. Society does shame bigger bodies a lot, not just "fat" or "obese" people.

This is running on but basically, I agree with you the most important is personal health. My healthy is a different size than another person's healthy. "Fat Accpectance" is good in that it does to an extent acknowledge that there are many other body types out there but it is bad in that it doesn't acknowledge the causes of obesity and the fact that Americans waistlines have been steadily increasing over the years.
Datdudeblack · 36-40, M
adults can be fat all they want if thats what they choose to live. you dont have to accept it but you shouldnt have to put your input into someone elses life. they get fat and die thats on them. too much info out there to not know whats good and bad for you. for people to think saying hey being fat isnt good for you fatty will help them.
Datdudeblack · 36-40, M
@Shaman from birth till adulthood you are putting on display from your actions your potential. you can be more than what you show but in eye sight by your actions you are showing the world what you can be. you can inspire others but telling others how they should live seems like a waste to me. of course there are people who need to be shown but at the same time being fat is a problem people put on themselves unless they have a medical condition. if you want to save people who dont want to save themselves go ahead im not saying dont. im saying i dont care. live how you want. get fat dont get fat. you live or you die from it. thats on that individual.
Shaman · 26-30
@Datdudeblack I get it you don't care. I wouldn't have replied to you if I agreed with you. I think the more we care, the more we can benefit.

Actions do give an idea on the potential, though only to a degree...
Datdudeblack · 36-40, M
@Shaman only way to understand is discussion. i agree with we should all care more but sometimes its hard to care for someone that dont want to care for them self.
QueenOfZaun · 26-30, F
We should accept fat people. Not everybody is perfect. Not everyone is capable of living a healthy lifestyle. I don’t think being fat should be promoted but we should accept it. Accept, as in not be assholes or tell other people how to live their lives just because they are fat.
Shaman · 26-30
@QueenOfZaun Okay, I get your point. Now try to understand mine.

Though the better situation is relative, it wouldn't be illogical to suggest that a situation where a person's wight does not affect their health is better than a situation where it does.

Everbody is capable of that. Some people require more effort and support than others. But as humans we have an ability to achieve what we want in the cases we actually do want it.

Flaws exist so we can better ourselves on them. I never suggested that having flaws is a bad thing. The way you put your arguments implies that I am against being fat in an unhumanitarian way. On the contrary, I suggest my ideas for the benevolence of those individuals rather than my aesthetical purposes.

Suggesting that there are worse things than being fat in an unhealthy way does not change the fact that it is still unhealthy and thus bad.

As a human, my business includes minding other humans health as well as mine.
QueenOfZaun · 26-30, F
@Shaman For somebody who tries or at least in my eyes, takes time to come off as a well balanced Indivdual, you sound dangerously arrogant.

Other people’s bodies and what they do with them is not your business. You sound narcisstic, like your entitled to tell other people your opinion because they have a flaw you don’t have (assuming you aren’t fat) Yes flaws exist so we can better ourselves. But some are permanent. If all flaws are fixable, then why don’t perfect people exist? We are all flawed, until the day we die.

None of us will ever be perfect. Some of us will always drink more then we should. Eat more then we should. Be more angry then we should. And that’s okay. As long as you make up for it by having more strengths then weakness’. That’s what really matters.

Not conforming to specific notion of what a healthy human being should look like.
Shaman · 26-30
@QueenOfZaun I think your vision of me blinded by some other issue. I won't suggest another argument because I think I explained myself.

I am curious about your arguments though. What made you the impression that I am arrogant and narcissistic?

I think what makes a person perfect is that they put effort to get themselves better.
QueenOfZaun · 26-30, F
@Shaman A trait of narcissism is a lack of empathy and they especially have difficulty empathizing with people on issues that they themselves have never been through.

Nothing in your words indicated any empathy. It’s a very totality viewpoint. Your pushing your ideas on other people and using semantic terminology to explain it.

Ideas and concepts like perfection, self worth, how people should improve themselves. You explained what they meant to you. And you assumed that your own definitions of those ideas and concepts must apply to others as well.

That’s not true at all.

Another dead give away, is how you’re using your own existence to justify putting your beliefs on other people. You say things along the lines of “Well i’m apart of the system, therefore it is my business.” Their is a subtext of an inflated self importance when you say something like that.
QueenOfZaun · 26-30, F
@Shaman Oh is that cognitive dissonance i’m starting to detect? Yeah, I expected as much. It must be pretty shocking for someone like you to learn that your idealogy isn’t perfect and can do way more harm then good.
Shaman · 26-30
@QueenOfZaun It's quite interesting that you support kindness where you attack my ideas in an assertive way. I will demonstrate it on you once.

You are deluding yourself that your attemtp of manipulation have worked on me. It may have until now with other people, but I know myself. You think you're entitled to tell what to do to people because you think your judgement is better, as you are deceiving yourself that you are kind and emphatetic. Your approach is really dangerous and I am callig you on that. However, you will not stop, I know. It's of no importance, I rest my case.
QueenOfZaun · 26-30, F
@Shaman No I simply disagree with you on a viewpoint. Really doesn’t go any deeper then that. And frankly, i’m not a nice person. I don’t claim to be. You’re a random, rude narcissistic person on the internet. I don’t owe you any respect. Of course someone like you would complain about not receiving respect. Because your so narcissistic you presume that your owed respect. You aren’t. Get off your high horse.

Now you’re being manipulative trying to use my own argument against me because you’ve realized your own isn’t working. You’re literally just repeating what I said to you back to me.

You’ve run out of things to say to me. Now you’re just lashing out in anger at this point because you feel insecure.
IWasCallingYaLarry · 26-30, M
I completely agree with you. I am fat but have lost nearly 50 lbs and won't stop trying to lose more weight. Unlike the Fat Acceptance movement which just victimizes fat people and coddles them to encourage them to potentially die at age 35, I at least am doing something about it. I don't sit around eating 50 donuts and then crying about being fat and being tired from doing basic human things such as walking upstairs or getting out of bed. I know I did it to myself and am working hard to correct the problem.
How about the alcoholics and the drug addicts? Why only fat people? If you want to promote healthy living it shouldn't be targeted only towards fat people.... just saying
BayouBoudin · 36-40, M
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@Somewhereovertherainbow I understand. This is a question that about thoughts, opinion, and feeling. So we can say whatever we have in our mind.
@SW-User I respect your post I was just expanding on the situation
Shaman · 26-30
Until the point it affects health any weight is good in my opinion
SW-User
Well as far as looks as I said I don't care. If they are ok with it ok. But obesity goes beyond that... If we talk about health, then it's a matter of concern, should be treated like any health sickness. And an addiction. I think people should focus more on health, the consequences and causes... than looks, so in that way I agree with you. Nice post 🙏
MissMoon · 26-30, F
I think we should be nice to people and not jump to assumptions but this community of people who are trying to promote obesity as healthy and ok are taking it a step too far. We need to understand that being overweight and underweight is less healthy than being in the healthy weight range for our bodies.
Goralski · 51-55, M
Plus...they don't look good in an bikini:(
BayouBoudin · 36-40, M
@SW-User Adapt to the world.
SW-User
@BayouBoudin I thankfully, have my own way of thinking and choose acceptance... If you don't, then up to you. It won't change anything, you see.
BayouBoudin · 36-40, M
@SW-User I live in the world that it. It is cold and harsh. Adapt and thrive.
Dusty101 · F
I accept all shapes and sizes of people!!! It doesn't matter. I do care for someone who is very over weight... I care for her heart as she is now bed ridden. I wish her all the help she can get!
BayouBoudin · 36-40, M
@Dusty101 That poor bed.
Dusty101 · F
@BayouBoudin I am usually a comical person and witty... you got me!🤐
In the recent past, I've written here on SW expressing my observations on how as a society we have become much "larger".

The issue has many layers. Diet, disorders (IE thyroid), lack of nutritional awareness and culture are just a few that play parts in this phenomena.

What do I think?
I think that many of the overweight will suffer more health crisis's in their lives that will lead to a lessor quality of life.

Do I participate in "fat shaming"... No, you already know you are overweight, I don't need to reinforce that fact.

To those around us that struggle with weight I would simply say... "Eat an apple instead of that muffin."
Batman · 41-45, M
Ummm would you say the same is true for alcoholics?
Shaman · 26-30
Yes @Batman
SW-User
I think that that's up to each person. If they want to be fat or thin then o.k.
SW-User
@BayouBoudin remember that it's not only about exercise. If they eat lots and lots it's a remedy.
BayouBoudin · 36-40, M
@SW-User If you overeat, you need to exercise to burn the excess calories. I binge eat. Why? Because it is enjoyable. I lift weight every Friday morning. I overeat every Friday night. On Saturday, I lower my caloric intake. It balances out. Choices and discipline.
SW-User
@BayouBoudin yes right but some people are lazy haha not disciplined and if they are too heavy exercise can be more difficult for them, so it's a vicious cycle for most people, good that you have balance 😁 many just don't
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TheunderdogofNY · 36-40, M
Cool. Just don't promote obesity as being healthy.
As long as it isn't a way of comfortable denial then its fine. If someone wants to lose weight then thats on them, if they're happy with it then people shouldn't call them fat because its rude anyway.
If someone wants me to agree that its healthy in a factual argument then no but i don't see that happening.
You can make smoking bad because it's an addiction, tell someone they need to stop eating and they knaw your arm off for the next meal
SW-User
@Justafantasy Sadly, people nowadays see it as an offended opinion. They over-idealizing the idea of 'everyone is beautiful' and they use it to justify their offended feeling about their health.
@SW-User I tend to disagree, addictions are not beautiful, some (few) people do have valid medical reasons for weight gain.
SW-User
@Justafantasy Sometimes, I wonder what is happen inside their head. Are they living in reality or expectation? Because all they know is mostly expectation. It's funny that they are too afraid to face the reality that they build up a wall to protect their true self. But they don't realize that their wall only makes them worse.
SW-User
Healthiness is good, and looks often indicate good health and good genes. I hate it when I see slobby guys in jeans way too tight and a big belly inside a gross t shirt. No need to accept that crap.
SW-User
Thanks for the ❤️
thenightwatchman · 36-40, M
I'm very much into fitness myself, however I also find "fat" women more attractive generally
SW-User
@thenightwatchman Well, each person has a different taste.
thenightwatchman · 36-40, M
@SW-User and so people who might be considered overweight should accept themselves, unless they want to change
QueenOfZaun · 26-30, F
@thenightwatchman I agree with you. Big girls are hot. And they should only change if they really want to
th3r0n · 41-45, M
I'm currently somewhat overweight, but I agree with this post.

I got depressed for a while and quit moving as much. I always eat a lot, but I'm very active when happy.
ScrewThisImDone · 26-30, F
I think we should just stop being shallow enough to body shame others, no matter what they weigh.
Shaman · 26-30
Yeah shaming is the wrong way @ScrewThisImDone
YMITheWayIM · 46-50, M
I like curves. I don't give a rats arse if that's unhealthy, or if one cant tell a hippo from curvy.
BayouBoudin · 36-40, M
@YMITheWayIM There are curves and there are land whales.
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xSharp · 31-35, M
didnt the fat acceptance spokeswoman die of heart failure at age 35? nope it was 34.
BayouBoudin · 36-40, M
@xSharp I hope so.
SW-User
Not healthy, an I'm not gonna accept anything I damn well don't want to
sighmeupforthat · 46-50, M
gee, i know a few cancer sufferers who'd love to be fat.


go tell them all about it.
None of us have to accept anyone unless we do.
SW-User
@Spoiledbrat You don't like challenging your own perceptions?
SW-User
I think the same way as you.
SW-User
I've always stayed fit so I concur
Ozdharma · 61-69, M
It is wrong
asdfghjkl · 26-30, F
Zonuss · 41-45, M
I think everyone should be accepted regardless of their size. In this modern day world its good to see larger people being accepted in the mainstream.
Chickie · F
Unhealthy as fuck, shouldn't be a thing

 
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