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Is English an easy language to learn?

I'm a native speaker, but I love learning languages. I've always wondered what the hardest things are for people who aren't native English speakers. Whether it be certain accents, words, phrases that don't make sense, etc. So ESL Learners, what's the most difficult thing about English for you? How did you all learn to speak English so perfectly? I would think that 95% of you guys are native English speakers by the way that you write. What's more surprising is that some of you come from countries in which I've heard most of the population speaks little to no English, so I'm very curious as to how you all learned it so well. I was mostly just asking out of curiosity because the few people I know who speak more than one language either learned it when they were young from family or learned it on their own later on because U.S. schools don't do a good job with foreign languages.
ArishMell · 70-79, M Best Comment
I am not sure how it can be compared in that way.

It has a very broad vocabulary drawn from many languages over some 2000 years. These include Latin, Greek, German, French, Scandinavian; more recently (last few centuries) Indian and other Asian languages; and nowadays a lot of Americana - which tends to ignore etymology with a very few, rather peculiar results. Plus others: [i]algebra[/i] is close to its Arabic root, for example

This polyglotism gives English many of curious spelling and pronounciation results - e.g.:

- [i]Ruff[/i] and [i]rough[/i] rhyme with each other and with [i]tough[/i], but not with [i]through[/i].

- [i]Through [/i]rhymes with [i]too, two[/i] and [i]to[/i]) but not [i]or bough[/i]

- [i]Bough[/i] rhymes with [i]bow[/i] the gesture but not [i]bow[/i] the knot, which rhymes with [i]no[/i].

The language has a lot of formal grammar rules, as most languages do, and they allow you to write very elegant, accurate, clear [i]text[/i], and to [i]speak[/i] very accurately, mellifluously and concisely; but taken too far they can make everyday speech sound a bit stilted.

On the other hand, English does not assign genders to nouns, as happens in French. It does have irregular verbs but the verb constructions generally are fairly straightforwards.

Neither does English have generic and familiar forms of the personal address [i]you[/i], as in German and French.

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Just to make it more fun, the British Isles encompass four native languages of which one, Welsh, is still spoken and written widely if only within Wales; and even just the English of England comprises many accents and dialects.

helenS · 36-40, F
In my opinion, English is [u]very[/u] difficult to learn, for a variety of reasons.
Example:
(a) speaking about the past:
I have waited
I have been waiting
I waited
I was waiting
I had waited
I had been waiting
The differences in meaning are very subtle.

(b) to + infinitive vs. gerund:
I like to go to the theatre
I like going to the theatre
Again, the meaning is slightly different, right? Or consider this example:
I stopped smoking (I quit)
I stopped to smoke (I stopped my car, to smoke a cigarette).

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People who think English is easy to learn are either native speakers, or people who do not know the language.

Dixi et salvavi animam meam.
Human1000 · M
@helenS Don’t get me started on the politics of “the Dictionary!” Lol.
helenS · 36-40, F
@Human1000 ROFL! 🤭
uncleshawn · 41-45, M
@helenS Thanks for the info.
Oneofthestormboys · 100+, M
I’m always amazed about how some non-English speaking people have learned it to such a high level. In fact, in the Scandinavian countries as well as the Netherlands, the average level of English is truly astonishing. In some cases it’s actually hard to tell they’re not native speakers.
After having taught myself Spanish to a reasonable level, I can say with certainty that English is a very forgiving language - It’s possible to make numerous mistakes in a single sentence and still be fully understood. That’s certainly not the case with Latin language verb structure. It also simplifies on other languages by dispensing with object gender and consequent adjective agreement.
This leads to far less thought required to say basic sentences.
Oneofthestormboys · 100+, M
My pet hate is the ever increasing incorrect use of an apostrophe with a plural. This makes my teeth grind.
I feel like keeping a big red marker and a tin of red spray paint so that I can correct this glaring mistake on shop signs or even other people’s graffiti 😂
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Oneofthestormboys I agree! A long-established food shop in my town had "Eat's" in its sign for quite some years before correcting it!

I think more serious is the distortion of meanings or syntax, as that might be confusing to anyone trying to learn the language, perhaps visiting the country. Some of is by ignorance, such as shown by politicians trying to use as metaphors, technical terms they clearly do not understand; but more insidious is the deliberate mis-use, most often in trying to make some campaign point or other.

Perhaps one of of the saddest attacks on the language though came last year or in 2019, when the Oxford English Dictionary excised everday names for common plants and animals from the children's edition on the feeble excuse of making space for IT terms. Yes, the computer lingo need be there, but so should the nature names. Perhaps the editor was too fond of George Orwell's novels....
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
No. It isnt. It is one of the most mongrelised languages, with roots from all over and almost none of the regular grammatical rules other languages can draw on.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@whowasthatmaskedman The first part is right, starting wit Latin, Greek and NE European; but not the second. English does have many formal grammar rules that ecompass most words irrespective of etymology.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@ArishMell Except when that word is drawn from another language and follows the rules of the language of Origin. Like Octopus and Octopi. And we deal with gender assignment differently from many languages, although in my view a more logical manner than some.
And using different Anglo words for the farm animal and the French derivative to the animal as food is another sticking point. Confusing for those with another European language as a first Language.. Nonsensical to someone starting with an Asian language base.
SW-User
Just even think about "there, their and they're" many English speakers don't know the difference
It would be confusing to learn, my sister in law has foreign students every year who stay with her and go to school to learn English, they come from France, Spain, Brazil Italy and most of them have had more than one language already, they all told me that it was very difficult and complicated compared to other languages, however they all successfully learned
Dlrannie · 31-35, F
@SW-User Haha - they need to try Cantonese then 😂🐼🥢
SW-User
@Dlrannie 😆😆
OldBrit · 61-69, M
I'm a native speaker but dyslexic... my opinion - it sucks!

Inconsistent syntax and rules.... like it's vs its verses nearly all other possessive use of the apostrophe. Whose vs who's again in another complete change to the possessive syntax rules.

There, their, they're... here, hear... etc

If I wrote a new computer language with all the syntax anomalies English it wouldn't last 2 seconds. How can your write a token parser with all those exceptions!
helenS · 36-40, F
@OldBrit On the other hand, English is much more expressive than many other European languages.
Compare: "royal", "kingly", "regal", with slightly different meanings, depending on the context.
In French it's just "royal".
OldBrit · 61-69, M
@helenS I agree there is perhaps a nuance within English you don't get in many other languages. Also not using the latin verbs and not having genders on objects etc. does remove much of the complexity in other European ones.
pattycakechamp · 26-30, F
It's far from the hardest, I know that much. English is maybe in the middle, depending on your primary language (Does it use the same letters and similar sounds? If so, it'll be easier)
Human1000 · M
@pattycakechamp In watching a lot of Japanese programs I’ve noticed that women use different inflections and cadences than men. They often do this rising elevation in tone at the end of a sentence to indicate amusement.
justanothername · 51-55, M
It’s easy to speak but very hard to learn to write with many similar sounding words all having different meanings and spelling.
SW-User
It has to be easier than learning the gender of every inanimate object
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Not the easiest nor the hardest.
Some of the hardest don't even use their voices.

If you can't whistle you would be very hard put to say anything in whistle language of sfyria on the greek isle of Evia. 🙃😈
bugeye · 26-30, F
it's got it's awkward parts and people love correcting grammar.

You're gonna have to learn your theirs there coz they're dicks about it. :D
Ingwe · F
I suppose so but I never cared to learn it to the best of my ability
I just wanted to get by lol
Human1000 · M
That was perfect.@Ingwe
Human1000 · M
I watch anime with my son in Japanese with English subtitles. It’s often funny when the translation is too literal.

 
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