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Republicans - advocators of free market & small government. Do you feel that Facebook, Twitter & other social media platforms should be allowed to set

their own TOS, and ban individuals who violate them? Or do you believe the government should step in and regulate these private companies?
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
Not a Republican, but conservative. I have zero issues with companies making their own decisions about how their business is run, and what rules will govern it's business.

The issue however, is when several of these companies, like Google, Facebook and Twitter get together and conspire to destroy another company that they don't like, with the governments blessing or even urging.

That's what happened to Parler.

Additionally, Google and Twitter conspired to block the Hunter Biden laptop story last fall which was also corrupt.

I have issues with that. I don't care if a company sets its own rules within its ecosystem.
LordShadowfire · 46-50
@SumKindaMunster Saw on the news where they're re-releasing it, and they were talking about the enhanced security measures. Tbh, I was barely listening, but I was glad to hear it's not gone forever.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@SumKindaMunster And I'm saying that the technical and legal reason for it to fail were already there.

It's as if a car without functioning steering was being driven recklessly and crashed, and we were here discussing whether it was a hole on the road giving it its final, fatal trajectory towards a tree - ignoring completely the fact it couldn't turn in the first place (which is what I'm insisting on) and that it would've still at the very best stopped, as soon as the road was no longer straight.

And the users of the platforms have only Parler itself (for the data leak) and themselves to blame (for having their beloved platform get terminated by the very same free/unregulated market and small government ideals they support); similarly to how the driver of that car would have only the manufacturer (for the steering issue) and himself (for the reckless driving).

Oh the irony, I would say the same about yourself.
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4meAndyou · F
I feel that they have become monopolies grown so monstrous in size they need to be downsized, like Ma Bell, which was cut into two parts, AT&T and Verizon. Too much power concentrated into an obviously politically motivated website is never a good thing.

Originally they were given some very special exemptions from the law, so that their users could not sue them for cancelling their accounts. I think it was called Section 230.

Now, their original terms of service have become ill defined, and slippery at best. Users content can be edited, therefore these social media websites have become editors. If they are editors, they no longer qualify under Section 230 to be exempt from lawsuits.

In some instances, users accounts have been deleted and restored in a fashion that would affect the dissemination of crucial information to voters during elections, such as the elimination of the New York Post account during the Biden election, because they aired a true report of Biden's son's shenanigans and published a report that Biden himself, using the name, The Big Guy, was skimming 10% from what Hunter made.

Newspaper accounts actually made money from their exposure on twitter and face book, due to increased exposure, and lost money when the Woke websites shut them down.

These were not just algorithms at work. This was active human intervention, as we saw in the case of Senator Tim Scott, whose rebuttal speech to Biden's State of the Union address received a barrage of racist responses on Twitter, where the racial slur "Uncle Tim" and "Oreo" were left up for ELEVEN hours.

Conservatives whose political views were upsetting to the Marxist left, on the other hand, were taken down within minutes.

WEEKS would go by while those same conservatives and newspapers would demand to know specifically WHY they were shut down for violations of.....WHAT TOS???? In other words, asking what they had said that was so wrong? In the end, reluctantly, Facebook and Twitter would restore their accounts, with a resounding...."Ooops!"
4meAndyou · F
@Stereoguy In the case of Trump, permanently silenced.
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TheArbitrator · 36-40, M
@4meAndyou Good argument here. Facebook definitely is monopolistic in the social media market. Moreover, the company is constantly buying out up-and-coming social media platforms. Congress should consider whether FB practices violate antitrust laws.
Keeper · M
Free speech should be free speech. If you don't like a particular opinion, view...etc. simply block the person/group or unsubscribe from the platform altogether.

Picking and choosing which content is "allowed" leads to state run media and one sided propaganda. News and free thought opinions shouldn't be "bought" by advertisers or influenced by politics.
TheArbitrator · 36-40, M
@Keeper 1st amendment protections only apply to the government vs the people. Private companies are not required to follow the first amendment or allow free speech.

If the consumer doesn't agree they're likewise not required to use that service.
Stopmakingsense · 56-60, F
@QuixoticSoul government has a responsibility to fund the free press.
If the government gets that power...they won't be private companies anymore...no
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Stopmakingsense · 56-60, F
@Eyeamhere if the government gets control, we get what we vote for.
Stopmakingsense · 56-60, F
The whole idea that government has a job here is lost in a corporatocracy.
Let thEm do what they want. I'm not obligated to use their website.
TheArbitrator · 36-40, M
@Callmewhatyouwill Egg-xactly
FreestyleArt · 31-35, M
Government and TOS? What's the difference really? They work for the Government
LordShadowfire · 46-50
@FreestyleArt Expose what? That despite Donald Trump's prolonged hissy fit, there was more evidence of his people cheating?
FreestyleArt · 31-35, M
@LordShadowfire you ain't going to do it eh? Just dodging I see
LordShadowfire · 46-50
@FreestyleArt There is nothing about the election to expose.
sunrisehawk · 61-69, M
There are different rules by law for publishers of content and platforms. Platforms have greater protection in the interest of free speech. The problem is when a platform starts to act as a publisher. Rather than regulate the TOS and companies, change their classification when they violate the legal standards. Publishers can censor, platforms are not supposed to outside the illegal stuff.
LordShadowfire · 46-50
@sunrisehawk But none of that matters when you click "I have read and agree to the terms of use." That is a private contract that you sign.
BlueDiver · 36-40, M
I don't think that the government should be able to tell companies what to do beyond preventing monopolies and guaranteeing worker's right and all that kind of stuff. But in terms of dictating the nitty-gritty like that, I have zero desire for the government to step in like that. The only giant group more stupid about those kinds of decisions than the companies themselves is the government.
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@CopperCicada I think it is about admins who like most human beings these days have allowed their positions to become corrupted, through partiality and bias
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4meAndyou · F
@CopperCicada I think you are right. The internet has become a highway for the dissemination of information. The Monster social media websites have become the largest places in which that information is disseminated.

In terms most of us can understand, in order to reach San Francisco, by other than winding paths through the woods and little back towns, we need to use the super highways.

In order to find information using anything other than the huge websites, we have to use Google...or something similar. And these monstrous search engines have already colluded to shut down Parler...and will try to shut down any competition in future if they are not downsized and their teeth pulled.
TheArbitrator · 36-40, M
@CopperCicada Great point!
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