I am happy about Chauvin's conviction, but I do feel it's inappropriate for the POTUS to make such comment on these types of cases. What do you think?
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Stillwaiting · M
@SevIsPamprinYouAlways They were encouraging BLM and Antifa violence, including bailing them out of jail so they could be back out at it sooner. As guilty at it as Trump re Jan 6th.
Stillwaiting · M
@SevIsPamprinYouAlways I'm not defending Trump. I'm saying the Dems are as guilty over BLM and Antifa violence, looting and destruction campaign that went on for months across the country. That was about the election too.
SevIsPamprinYouAlways · 56-60, F
@Stillwaiting
You’re buying into a narrative carefully spun from the Right Wing. The violence at the summertime protests was organized and executed by far right groups. That’s not a cherry picked opinion; it’s demonstrative fact. Even the Justice Department under Trump’s administration was quite open about admitting this. The headlines above were only a fraction of the ones I could’ve retrieved. They all point to protests being hijacked by domestic terrorists from the Far Right, who used them to trigger violence and destruction.
However, I suspect neither of us will budge in our opinions/convictions on this matter. I just felt compelled to point out that the protests didn’t lead to violence and riots until white nationalists got involved.
You’re buying into a narrative carefully spun from the Right Wing. The violence at the summertime protests was organized and executed by far right groups. That’s not a cherry picked opinion; it’s demonstrative fact. Even the Justice Department under Trump’s administration was quite open about admitting this. The headlines above were only a fraction of the ones I could’ve retrieved. They all point to protests being hijacked by domestic terrorists from the Far Right, who used them to trigger violence and destruction.
However, I suspect neither of us will budge in our opinions/convictions on this matter. I just felt compelled to point out that the protests didn’t lead to violence and riots until white nationalists got involved.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
I have mixed feelings about this case.
I applaud the idea that police officers are individually accountable and don't enjoy a special privilege to treat people like dirt in the exercise of their authority.
But ... I watched about half of the court proceedings, and the prosecution's case seemed to be more about defending the police department, the city and the system, and indirectly hanging Chauvin in the process. Chauvin's defense appeared to be intentionally shallow and steered clear of deflecting Chauvin's conduct onto his supervisors, department, training, etc. When Chauvin hid behind the 5th and refused to testify on his own behalf, what struct me then was that he was a willing scapegoat, and maybe a back-room deal was at play.
When Biden and Harris participated in the post-verdict celebration, what struct me was that the whole thing was planned political drama.
I applaud the idea that police officers are individually accountable and don't enjoy a special privilege to treat people like dirt in the exercise of their authority.
But ... I watched about half of the court proceedings, and the prosecution's case seemed to be more about defending the police department, the city and the system, and indirectly hanging Chauvin in the process. Chauvin's defense appeared to be intentionally shallow and steered clear of deflecting Chauvin's conduct onto his supervisors, department, training, etc. When Chauvin hid behind the 5th and refused to testify on his own behalf, what struct me then was that he was a willing scapegoat, and maybe a back-room deal was at play.
When Biden and Harris participated in the post-verdict celebration, what struct me was that the whole thing was planned political drama.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@Zeusdelight Yes, and it reminds me of how a family member's speeding ticket was handled.
Zeusdelight · 61-69, M
@Heartlander Happy to equate a speeding ticket with a person's death?
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@Zeusdelight I'll ignore the part about how many people die at the hands of speeding or reckless drivers, and stick to my general impression: the Chauvin trial smells of political theater. And much like that speeding ticket was handled by a bit of trickery, I suspect that there's more to this than what they want us to see.
Interesting that I didn't see any mention of racism in the trial process. I didn't watch it all but what I did see had no racial component from either side. But, to watch Biden and Harris post-verdict address, it was all about systemic racism.
Interesting that I didn't see any mention of racism in the trial process. I didn't watch it all but what I did see had no racial component from either side. But, to watch Biden and Harris post-verdict address, it was all about systemic racism.
BeefySenpie · M
LoveTriumphsOverHate · 36-40, M
@BeefySenpie I think it is a faint step forward, but under our fair system of democracy and our fair justice system, I don't believe his comments were appropriate.
Mamapolo2016 · F
JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F
No one seemd bothered by Trump offering his opinions on legal battles and procedures.
This is irrelevant.
Maybe the issue has always been Presidents who DON'T say what they should.
Grant was a valiant man...but Reconstruction failed for many reasons...one of them being the inability of the President( Grant) to assert his vision for the country based on his belief that Congress and senate had all the power.
This is irrelevant.
Maybe the issue has always been Presidents who DON'T say what they should.
Grant was a valiant man...but Reconstruction failed for many reasons...one of them being the inability of the President( Grant) to assert his vision for the country based on his belief that Congress and senate had all the power.
Harmonium1923 · 51-55, M
Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
MURD3RM0NK3Y · 26-30, M
JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F
Zeusdelight · 61-69, M
@JaggedLittlePill But there are always discussions on legal points that it is inappropriate for the Jury to hear. If it was out of bounds, the other side will take it further.
InOtterWords · F
LoveTriumphsOverHate · 36-40, M
@InOtterWords Yeah - and we got rid of Trump.
InOtterWords · F
@LoveTriumphsOverHate thankfully !
REMsleep · 41-45, F
If something is tearing the country apart and it's part of a long standing human rights concern especially with historical undertones,I think that it's prudent for the Potus to not ignore this type of current event.
He shouldn't speak on these things daily but it was historic and important and it may quell unrest.
His only opinion was that justice was served which really in a court of law should not be controversial
He shouldn't speak on these things daily but it was historic and important and it may quell unrest.
His only opinion was that justice was served which really in a court of law should not be controversial