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Elessar · 26-30, M
@Grateful4you Yep. And bad, we're going through a major second wave, and the general feeling is that another lockdown - maybe not national (yet) - is only a matter of time before it happens. Nearly +11k today, which is more than we ever registered, even back in March/April.
The retards who want to keep everything open at all costs are in the opposition and have virtually no decision power, luckily.
The retards who want to keep everything open at all costs are in the opposition and have virtually no decision power, luckily.
Grateful4you · M
@Elessar Damn wasn't aware how badly things have been there recently. At least those idiots don't have the power. As you know, Trump is touting "Herd immunity" allowing however many to simply die, and continues ignoring the medical community and promoting himself as an example how minor and supposedly "harmless" Covid is. I sincerely hope your country finds it's way back to healing and soon. My heart goes out to your people.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Grateful4you Thank you for the kind words, I hope it gets better also for you guys, independently from the federal govt. in/action.
It's a complicated situation here honestly. Some economical sectors are already in poor conditions, forcefully shutting some businesses down isn't going to be a popular decision, keeping them open amid a sharp raise of cases isn't going to be popular either, if/when that'll translate to a sharp rise of hospitalizations in the upcoming weeks.
In France it's currently worse, +32k with a positive/total swabs ratio that is above 10.0% if I recall correctly (we're at 10k with >5.0% currently).. but I think we're just two/three weeks behind them. The virologist who saved my region/state's ass during the first wave stated that with the current numbers contract tracing is already insufficient.
It's a complicated situation here honestly. Some economical sectors are already in poor conditions, forcefully shutting some businesses down isn't going to be a popular decision, keeping them open amid a sharp raise of cases isn't going to be popular either, if/when that'll translate to a sharp rise of hospitalizations in the upcoming weeks.
In France it's currently worse, +32k with a positive/total swabs ratio that is above 10.0% if I recall correctly (we're at 10k with >5.0% currently).. but I think we're just two/three weeks behind them. The virologist who saved my region/state's ass during the first wave stated that with the current numbers contract tracing is already insufficient.
Grateful4you · M
@Elessar We aren't getting accurate worldwide information, it's like we are now a third world country being spoon fed only what the governments thinks we should know.
We were told this second wave would be less severe and more easily contained than the first wave. With Trumps cavalier attitude the virus is almost regarded as a common cold.
Is there a change in the severity of the virus as far as you know? Personally, myself and others close to me are dealing with it as though it's as bad as it ever was.
We were told this second wave would be less severe and more easily contained than the first wave. With Trumps cavalier attitude the virus is almost regarded as a common cold.
Is there a change in the severity of the virus as far as you know? Personally, myself and others close to me are dealing with it as though it's as bad as it ever was.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Grateful4you You can check the English version of our associated press here: [u]https://www.ansa.it/english[/u], in regards to our situation, it surely won't be filtered by your govt, and it's quite politically neutral as well.
They said the same over here about management, until this week, it ramped up so quickly with a rate no one really expected. It's like if all of a sudden infectivity has quintuplicated.
As far as I can say, no, we're just catching more asymptomatic cases now, while back in March you got tested only if you were very very severe (personal experience) so the hospitalisation and death rates were artificially higher. ICUs occupation is going up and at this rate some region/states will get near saturation within a month or two. Also, the fact Lombardy was the worst hit region both in the first wave and apparently now seems enough for me to exclude that natural herd immunity might be an exit strategy (always thought it's not a walkable way, tbh).
They said the same over here about management, until this week, it ramped up so quickly with a rate no one really expected. It's like if all of a sudden infectivity has quintuplicated.
As far as I can say, no, we're just catching more asymptomatic cases now, while back in March you got tested only if you were very very severe (personal experience) so the hospitalisation and death rates were artificially higher. ICUs occupation is going up and at this rate some region/states will get near saturation within a month or two. Also, the fact Lombardy was the worst hit region both in the first wave and apparently now seems enough for me to exclude that natural herd immunity might be an exit strategy (always thought it's not a walkable way, tbh).