Let’s imagine that we KNEW keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill was the answer to all the shootings.

@4meAndyou you're on to something.... connect the dots, see a pattern forming. This isn't hard it's just not politically or socially correct is the problem.

What about the Vegas shooter? No childhood indicators. @4meAndyou

Also does this mean anyone who had a similar childhood should never own a gun? Is that fair? Is that kind of person [b]always[/b] mentally ill for the rest of their lives? Certainly a minor can’t be held “legally responsible” for their choices until they are 18. How do we revoke the rights based on choices they made as kids?

I think people will become better at hiding their symptoms, avoiding diagnosis and treatment if they know their gun rights will be revoked.

@DoubleRings If we can avoid even one mass shooting, then early childhood intervention is certainly not a bad or a painful thing, and might even be helpful to the child in question.

By intervening, and guiding a child who may be in a bad situation, with no father at home, and incipient mental illness or voices in their heads like the Dayton shooter, we can stop PART of this trend.

The Vegas shooter came from an entire family who were concealing their own symptoms, from what I could see.

IMO performing intervention with families with sons with no fathers and providing in-school guidance and providing outreach through funding for activities like clubs and sports for such children, or membership in the Big Brother association, we can at least do something, which IMO is far better than sitting on our hands wailing that we can't fix everyone.

OK..like what @curiosi

@DoubleRings Start off with "everybody gets a trophy", it breeds narcissism.

ugh. i hâte this as much as you do. you bring an interesting point. for some reason it’s like a lot of these shooters are personally wronged because a girl didn’t kiss them or something. @curiosi

@abe182 i hope you are right.

@t3kkno I hope I am too. CNN is about to go under. Which I'm glad for.

But what about children? Children can’t carry. And schools have a lot more concentration of children than adults even if they are armed. @abe182 Besides that, one school actually had an armed guard and he [b]ran away![/b] 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

should everyone on anti depressants be banned from guns? and if so, for how long? @SW-User

@DoubleRings as long as they are on the prescription they should not be allowed to purchase guns or ammo

Is that fair? There are a bazillion people on antidepressants everyday that don’t shoot anything. Ever. @SW-User Medicated depressed people are prob less of a risk than people who are not. what do you think?

Also do you think that people will avoid diagnosis and treatment if they know their rights to guns will be revoked? I think they will.

that’s precisely my question. what’s mentally ill? @MarmeeMarch

@DoubleRings I dont think there is always a connection between violence and being mentally ill. But I suppose we should have a starting point.

I agree but remember that my question says to imagine that we KNOW there is a connection I wanna know how mentally ill should be defined before handing out guns. [

@msros If so, then let's just ignore it like the tens of thousands killed in car wrecks. We're all going to go some way.