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Do you think it’s important preserve or destroy bad parts of history?

Such as the confederate flag, Hitlers piano, etc.
quietlitany · 36-40, M
Preserve.

Good or bad is irrelevant as ideas and attitudes shift like fads, albeit more slowly. Haphazardly removing things you find unpleasant is sure to remove things that were good. It's just like clipping pages out of the book. If you clip the villain out, readers will never grasp the full significance of what the protagonist achieved.

Also, history doctoring is a propaganda tool and it's favored by Communists. Communism is a hateful ideology. Tens of millions of its own people have been slaughtered in its name.
G4509 · 31-35, F
Nicely put.@quietlitany
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I think it's important to keep them.

But it's also important to speak the truth of the historical narrative.

If you want to keep a statue of the Confederate general Nathan Bedford Forrest because it is a historical monument-- legit. But tell the truth at the same time. He was a war criminal.
MethDozer · M
@CopperCicada There wasn't really such a thing as war crimes back then. That wasn't considered a war crime yet as there was no Hague or Geneva convention making it one yet.

I'm far from a Confederate sympathizer, but if he was a war criminal in rertrospect... What about Sherman?
@MethDozer See. Pointing out Forrest and Fort Pillow is not the same as giving Sherman a pass on burning Atlanta to the ground.

No. There wasn't a definition of war crimes back then. But massacre of soldiers who have surrendered is not honorable by any convention.
MethDozer · M
@CopperCicada Never said it was honorable. It's unfettered war.

They used to be serious about that shit.
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@Waymore Well. I think I like Southern people more than they like me, let's put it that way LOL.
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@Waymore well. i've lived here 30y. just an observation.
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
Preserve as weird as that sounds. I've been to a Ripley's museum and viewed torture devices from the medieval era, "iron maidens" and other devices. Only saw them in books and seeing crap like that up close in a collection makes you understand what was going on better...brings history to life in a way.
Everything should be kept
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TexChik · F
History can’t be changed , only lied about
Redstar · 36-40, M
Why is Hitler's piano considered a part of history? I mean, it's just a piano, it's Hitler's and it's not like he was a famous musician anyway but even if he was, it's still just a piano.
Bearserks · 31-35, M
Because it was Hitler’s Piano@Redstar
Redstar · 36-40, M
Wraithorn · 51-55, M
Preserving in some way is important, lest we forget. If there is a debate about how it should be preserved then let's all have that debate with no holds barred until we reach a consensus.
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LoveOfLore · 61-69, F
The objects can go...it's the truth that shouldn't change
quietlitany · 36-40, M
@LoveOfLore Objects give meaning to ideas and the reversal. Seeing is believing for many....
LoveOfLore · 61-69, F
I agree... but the idea of huge museums being built to house and profit from history's hate seems like paying an elaborate homage hate.
Photographs, movies and words should be preserved...plenty there to remind us.
quietlitany · 36-40, M
@LoveOfLore "history's hate" why would we want to forget what hate can do left unchecked? Is it really "hate" when conscripts were dying defending their land, per their own journals and memoirs?

Movies in place of history? Are you serious? How would those NOT be homages to hate? I sense doublestandards here.
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TexChik · F
@Stereoguy yes . The founding of our nation and those great minds that saw it through in the beginning is so rare in history
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MethDozer · M
No mementos or knowledge of history should ever be destroyed.
Just look at the travesty that happened in China during the cultural revolution?
Untold numbers of art, architecture, and antiques forever lost because of a time it represented. Tragic and shameful.
quietlitany · 36-40, M
@MethDozer I agree. It's sad given the fact they're one of the most ancient and richest cultures to exist.
MethDozer · M
@quietlitany And yet you have to go to the formerly British controlled small port of Hong Kong or the Island Thiwan to see any of it. Way tio go Maoist retards.


I don'y generalize often but I will now. Anyone who says destroy is a complete and utter moron.
G4509 · 31-35, F
Very true.@quietlitany

 
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