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My partners adult daughter in her 30s is always trying to come between me an her Dad. We got engaged recently and she would look at my engagement ring

Its like a silent tug of war but she always acts so innocent to her Dad. When I try to explain her actions to my partner I'm met with aggression and acusations that I dont like his daughter. She has done many things in the past that are too many to mention. Her Dad is Italian and worships her. I feel the relationship is doomed as I dont attend family events anymore and she also turned my partners daughter in law against me but ill never find out what she said. Exhausted trying to figure out all this. Im not even sure if my partner genuinely loves me. I think he loves me when alls going well for him. Thoughts🤔 can this survive? His ex wife I think is in it to. So much jealousy!!😩
You are never going to change his mind about his daughter. Only she and her behavior can do that.

So your choices are to drop your end of the tug of war rope, leave, or stay and watch everybody involved be miserable.

She can’t jerk you around if you don’t hang on to the rope.
Ciaotutti · F
@Mamapolo2016 I know this but I do love her Dad but she is making it more difficult. She does things to guilt trip him plays his ex wife against him so he will run after her more. X
I understand. I do. I was in a very similar situation.

When we humans are presented with conflict - especially unfair conflict - our every impulse is to try to win.

You can’t win in this situation. The best possible outcome you could hope for is a draw (the everybody is miserable option).

We circled each other like dogs about to fight. Then my husband got very sick and I no longer had the energy or time to spend on that stupid game.

So I altered my behavior. I said that when she visited, I would leave so she could have her private time with her Dad. This reduced the friction between us and my frustration. I think she missed the little five minute wars, but tough.

Then when she had gone home, he and I didn’t have to deal with the negative aspects she left behind. It was just us again.@Ciaotutti
Ciaotutti · F
@Mamapolo2016 Im glad that helped a lot. My partner and his daughter spend time together without me as we dont live together. I dont have any problem with that my partner always says... my daughters visiting tonight or vice versa so i dont phone or expect him to phone till the visits over. However if I have my family over i dont tell him not to call. I just find his ways really odd. Its took me years to unravel a lot of his ways. He can be realky nice when it suits him but can also be very sarcastic definsive and picking up on something, he always has to be right.
Keepitsimple · 51-55, F
There’s nothing more sexy than a doting dad to his kids but if he’s not smart enough to see things as they are or defend you then it’s time to go. That’s not love.
Ciaotutti · F
@Keepitsimple its funny 7 years ago I mentioned to my ex that i met someone new. I told him he was Italian. What he said all those years ago " you will never be part of that family" seems to be right!! He didnt say it with malice just his opinion.
Keepitsimple · 51-55, F
It has nothing to do with being Italian. I’m Italian. Some men are happier living in the past with their first family is all.@Ciaotutti
Ciaotutti · F
@Keepitsimple yeah I think hes happier in the past thats why im sad. Im looking for a future! I feel like his weekend booty call not part of the family. We dont live together. Its like spagetti all mixed up.
Complex.
ThePerfectUsername · 70-79, M
I reckon your best option is to try and get through to his daughter yourself. Telling you partner what she's doing can only drive a wedge between you that I'm sure you'd rather wasn't there. If she's at all insecure she could be motivated by fear of losing her dad to you rather than plain jealousy, and if that's the case one of your better options might even be to deliberately present her with opportunities to spend extra time with him. There's no age limit to still needing to know that your dad loves you more than anyone else in the whole world.
Ciaotutti · F
@ThePerfectUsername I like your answer its how I feel. Thanks also for taking the time to read and understand some of what its been like. Even though ive not expressed a lot thats gone on. I just want him to acknowledge his daughter has a problem with me but he swtiches it. He rwalky didnt want me to go to his granddaughters birthday today. I know I must seem para to some people on here but thats my situation in his life. X
ThePerfectUsername · 70-79, M
Judging solely on what I've read here I think the way you feel is perfectly justified. I do worry a little that you might give up hope when a little more perseverance might just win the day, but when all's said and done it's your life not mine and only you can decide whether you're out of options or not. Good luck, and please keep us posted. @Ciaotutti
Ciaotutti · F
@ThePerfectUsername aww thank you I will keep you posted. We are going to his appartment soon in Rome its business/ holiday type trip. I think I will have a better idea how I am going to deal with things after that.
SW-User
If you can't push all that to the side and put it on ignore, you shouldn't be marrying him. Understand, you'll never win in this mental tug of war with his daughter. He will always side with her. Be smart. Don't allow her, or anyone else in the family, to become a bone of contention between you and your partner. Keep your mouth shut. When they say or do anything you find upsetting, smile and walk away.
Ciaotutti · F
@SW-User Did things work out ok for you?
SW-User
@Ciaotutti As far as my marriage, yes.
Ciaotutti · F
@SW-User Great im glad that it worked. Maybe I can try that. X
SW-User
if youve talked to her already and she wont change and if youve mentioned it to him and he wont change then i would consider leaving
Ciaotutti · F
@SW-User Ive not spoke to her directly because that would cause a major problem. Her Dad is wealthy and she wants to control him. I totally understand he loves his daughter grandkids. I love my family to but they dont come between us or go on holidays together. I dont want my main holiday in his apoartment in Rome with his family i want it to be us. We have been off & on in the relationship. Duh I love him but have my doubts about his love....
SW-User
@Ciaotutti well you have to talk to her if she will be a part of things
You could try to start fresh/over with her
include her in girls time
facials mani pedi's
yoga together
just the 2 of you
Ciaotutti · F
@butterflymind1 I could try that I wish Id tried before. I had a birthday party for her once Ive baby sitted for her to & always been nice to her. Till she started ignoring things and driving a wedge between me and my ex sister in law. I dont want to ask it will make me look para & I know she will deny everthing.
TheunderdogofNY · 36-40, M
If he's always putting his family over you and not even considering what you say or feel ✌️ out. Not worth the time or effort.
SW-User
Get out unless you want to live like this for the rest of your life.
GJOFJ3 · 61-69, M
It's a package deal.
His past is part of who he is today. Only you can decide if the good outweighs the bad.
Ciaotutti · F
@GJOFJ3 Thats what im trying to do. Theres just been so many issues. But I have always loved him & helped him for years when he had no money. Now He has come into his Fathers properties I see things changing.
GJOFJ3 · 61-69, M
@Ciaotutti yes that can definitely change the dynamics of a relationship
You know the first thing I notice about your post is that you think EVERYONE is against you. I have not been around these people, so I don't know but how could ALL of them be against you? Why do you think she stares at your ring? What do you think she is thinking?

So are you and your partner the same age?
Ciaotutti · F
@quitwhendone I didnt think anyone was againt me and was building a good relationship with the daughter in law. The ex wife asked to speak to me at a private party and told me my partner would never marry me. I don think everyone is against me i think my partners daughter and ex are against me and dont want me to be friends with the daughter in law. Woman can be like that.
HannahSky · F
Not sure he loves you, yet engaged 🤔
Ciaotutti · F
@HannahSky yes since we got engaged I think his daughter got worse to me. His ex wife took me aside at a family gathering and said he would never marry me.
He said he wanted to buy a ring but not marry ....maybe live toghther but with all this back stabbing its taken the happiness away. We split and he wanted me back and promised me the world. Now hes got me things are slipping away and making me sad. He is very stubborn peron and wont listen. Maybe I shouldnt have gone bk. In the shory split he had a new woman. I remained single.

 
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