Do you believe that data on the internet is there forever?
Regardless of the actual hard facts of it(which are [i]very[/i] complicated and anything but straightforward), what's your personal feelings?
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JoyfulSilence · 46-50, M
Forever is a long time.
Forever is longer than the life of the Universe, perhaps, too. Unless the endpoint of time is when this Universe ends (assuming it does). Yet what if there are many universes? Is forever measured with respect to the time of a universe? Or is there a forever attached to the multiverse? Or does every wordline have its own local conception of forever? And would two objects both measure the same perception of forever?
If one person falls into a black hole, I presume to this person their time ends when they fall into the singularity. But if I am safely in orbit on the outside and view this person reaching the event horizon, I think to me they would appear to freeze and their clock would appear to stop, and would persist like that for a while, I presume, except perhaps from erosion due to quantum effects. Yet even black holes die, so it would not be forever, I suppose. But I am no expert. Someday I want to understand it all, though. I have just been too lazy to try and tackle all the math.
As for my lifetime, I presume that anything I say or do can and may be stored somewhere for a long time. So even if I think things are private, I still watch what I say. I live 10 miles from NSA headquarters and do not trust them, or the corporations. Oh and then there are foreign spies.
Heck, I bet this post will now be flagged by the NSA for archiving just because it has the word NSA in it. Twice! It will be on some server in Utah, most likely.
Forever is longer than the life of the Universe, perhaps, too. Unless the endpoint of time is when this Universe ends (assuming it does). Yet what if there are many universes? Is forever measured with respect to the time of a universe? Or is there a forever attached to the multiverse? Or does every wordline have its own local conception of forever? And would two objects both measure the same perception of forever?
If one person falls into a black hole, I presume to this person their time ends when they fall into the singularity. But if I am safely in orbit on the outside and view this person reaching the event horizon, I think to me they would appear to freeze and their clock would appear to stop, and would persist like that for a while, I presume, except perhaps from erosion due to quantum effects. Yet even black holes die, so it would not be forever, I suppose. But I am no expert. Someday I want to understand it all, though. I have just been too lazy to try and tackle all the math.
As for my lifetime, I presume that anything I say or do can and may be stored somewhere for a long time. So even if I think things are private, I still watch what I say. I live 10 miles from NSA headquarters and do not trust them, or the corporations. Oh and then there are foreign spies.
Heck, I bet this post will now be flagged by the NSA for archiving just because it has the word NSA in it. Twice! It will be on some server in Utah, most likely.
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UndeadPrivateer · 31-35, M
@JoyfulSilence Very true, it's never too late to learn more.
JoyfulSilence · 46-50, M
@UndeadPrivateer I just wish some things would finally sink in. I keep making stupid mistakes in life. Sigh.
UndeadPrivateer · 31-35, M
@JoyfulSilence We all do, I think. Life lessons, they never cease.
SW-User
@UndeadPrivateer may as well stay there after me dying so. 🤣
UndeadPrivateer · 31-35, M
SW-User
@UndeadPrivateer how nice☺
But I worry about people storing my stuff in their computers or for themselves, let's say something personal that I shared in the past to someone idk haha more than the internet itself idk. 😅
But I worry about people storing my stuff in their computers or for themselves, let's say something personal that I shared in the past to someone idk haha more than the internet itself idk. 😅
KayraJordyn · F
UndeadPrivateer · 31-35, M
@KayraJordyn Perfection incarnate.
UndeadPrivateer · 31-35, M
@DancingStarGoddess Indeed. Money is also a huge factor. Having things on the internet requires having servers hosting them. Which costs [i]someone[/i] money.
@UndeadPrivateer absolutely
summersong · F
UndeadPrivateer · 31-35, M
@summersong Generally a wise idea. Even if it's not around forever, one doesn't know who is watching.
UndeadPrivateer · 31-35, M
@SW-User Usually a few months max after public removal unless you're some kind of person of interest or part of a system being actively archived. And even the archive is not indefinite, costs money to maintain and quickly deteriorates without maintenance.
UndeadPrivateer · 31-35, M
SW-User
@UndeadPrivateer alt.swedish.chef.bork.bork.bork forever!
UndeadPrivateer · 31-35, M
SW-User
@UndeadPrivateer that's comforting👍
Anyway someday everyone will be forgotten which is rather nice. So no problem haha
Anyway someday everyone will be forgotten which is rather nice. So no problem haha
UndeadPrivateer · 31-35, M
nonsensiclesnail · F
UndeadPrivateer · 31-35, M
@nonsensiclesnail That is the truth of it. It absolutely isn't, yet people do like to say it is. Probably because data logistics is crazy complicated and hard to wrap one's brain around if not tech savvy.
InOtterWords · F
UndeadPrivateer · 31-35, M
@InOtterWords Onto dead hard drives or just gets overwritten, in most cases. Until it reaches that final destination it sits on a server in a server room some place.
MartinTheFirst · 22-25, M