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I Am Amazed At the Universe

The aspect of order and disorder or entropy utterly fascinates me. I think all matter (including humans or even rocks) is defined by it's existence.

The meaning of life...is merely existence. And that anything formed is life and has a life-force. Humans are merely a mix of the sun and the earth, we are just another form of matter.

I know entropy is the basic universal force, however I wonder about the force of non-entropy or order. Why it exists? Where and why did that energy get unleashed? Actually thinking of this - because we are still in the expulsion and release of high energy.

http://gizmodo.com/what-was-our-universe-like-before-the-big-bang-1791889926
KaTeeEvent · 36-40, F
An endless feast for theorists, and wild speculation for everyone else, which is all fine because it fuels and promotes deep thinking, thoughts that build like slow evolution from a mere morsel and layer into something conceivable and vital.

Of course early man gazed up at the unfettered stars and, amazed at the beauty, eventually asked the question to themselves, "Where did we come from?"

Sadly, the tragic paradox and the answer of some of those staring who built layers with little deep thinking and no actual evidence led to religion and a supreme being which along with greed has been the curse of humans and humanity.

For those of us fascinated and interested in science we are amazed at the millennia of accomplishment but we usually start and stop at the Big Bang and the 15-billion year outward explosion which we are merely visiting as a form of space dust. We write off what happened before that titanic explosion of the infinitely small as simply, "We have no idea; existence of something simply was." The discussion of that unanswerable question is something that I smile about because it is hard-written in all of us....our cosmic dust and our curiosity was spelled out long ago even before our ancestors looked up at the glitter and the wonder.

Now what would have happened if earth's climate provided ongoing gloomy clouds?
okaybut · 56-60, M
@KaTeeEvent :) They knew how to do it in the 70s!
KaTeeEvent · 36-40, F
The song is from the words of the titanic author Kurt Vonnegut for whom space and time travel are part of the adventure.
@KaTeeEvent What a wonderful little essay, insightful, intelligent, with an incredible flair for language. Thank you both for such awe inspiring words.
KaTeeEvent · 36-40, F
The image on the cover of Carl Sagan's "Pale Blue Dot" is a shot of the Earth taken from Voyager as it hurtles past Jupiter looking back at us. In the crystal clear clarity of space we are in fact what the title describes and nothing more, a disappearing speck of dust, a grain of sand tinged blue because at least at this juncture of not having fucked things up completely we are awash in oxygen, water and a blue hue.

We are a totally insignificant part of this universe let alone our place in one of the millions of galaxies and that is refreshing to be a particle of eventual space dust considering that tiny bit has been around since the beginning.
okaybut · 56-60, M
@KaTeeEvent I agree. That understanding is my religion - Pantheism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism
And I goggled it...what an amazing image!
KaTeeEvent · 36-40, F

From the Cassini craft in '13: From the rings of Saturn winks our planet and a nearly imperceptible Moon.
okaybut · 56-60, M
@KaTeeEvent That is so cool!!! :)
Coralmist · 41-45, F
Such a great, mind blowing topic. Some days when I feel so BEYOND disconnected from other people, I 'll often remember Eckhart Tolle's line..'I don't 'have' a life, I AM life.' It really centers me, and I remember how we are all really the tiniest SPECKS on this planet, compared to the universe. I guess we are like ants to its' view. So weird to think of that.. and how if we are ants in the view of other life or planets, then what does ANY of it mean? Probably nothing .. it makes me sad in some ways, but like you said, relieved in other ways.
Coralmist · 41-45, F
@okaybut Thank you .... it's so NICE to actually KNOW that and remember it is harder to do- that we are PART of EVERYthing. People behave and talk and do as if everything and everyone were their own separate little entity and being and it's just not truth. (yet I grew up thinking that VERY much...) b/c it does 'seem' true on the outside, but when you delve into thinking about it, it just blows your mind that nothing is separate. Thanks again 🐛 Great post
okaybut · 56-60, M
@Coralmist Watching a TV show and he said human consciousness and ego was an evolutionary mistake. Maybe?
Coralmist · 41-45, F
@okaybut That's interesting.. are you talking about Tolle? (author).. on a tv show? Because he said the same thing wow. He had written in his book, The Power of Now, that the ego is like a glitch in humanity. It seeks and wants, and compares, and all of it is false. And it 'attaches' to things, and we think those things, are US. But on the other hand he said the earth and the universe itself is displaying itself, in human consciousness...so 'we' are the universe expressing itself into a conscious level. It was like a 'Aha' moment.. I love his books!! sorry to ramble , I guess I can do that LOL. What is the show ?
AliceTinker · 51-55, F
I've never hitched my waggon to any train but the way I think could be seen as animist.
Everything has a lifeforce, everything has energy.
Humans have no more or less lifeforce than a rock to me.
We are all just matter and I'm still trying to learn the why and how or maybe that there's no why or how maybe we just are.
okaybut · 56-60, M
@AliceTinker Wow...thanks for the new term. Love it! Google Pantheism and you will see a similarity. I would certainly class myself as a animist. And could not agree more about a rock have a similar life-force. We are all formations on the earth based upon the earth and sun.
okaybut · 56-60, M
@AliceTinker Just read this in the definition:
Distinction from pantheism
Animism is not the same as pantheism, although the two are sometimes confused. Some religions are both pantheistic and animistic. One of the main differences is that while animists believe everything to be spiritual in nature, they do not necessarily see the spiritual nature of everything in existence as being united (monism), the way pantheists do. As a result, animism puts more emphasis on the uniqueness of each individual soul. In pantheism, everything shares the same spiritual essence, rather than having distinct spirits and/or souls.
Yes, looking at this, I am still more so a Pantheist (but agree with all the aspects of Animism)...could have been the influence of my Roman Catholic faith in growing up. The need for one god.
goliathtree · 56-60, M
“It’s important to simultaneously let people know that we don’t know what we’re talking about,”

is probably the most important line in the whole piece, but eventually, with enough speculation, theory is developed.

Everything has to have a beginning, at least that is what our feeble minds hope for, but this also supposes an end, which is unthinkable.

I like the idea of hope and faith. All ends are simply another beginning. The collapsing and then expanding universe ideas (low entropy to high entropy) are almost comforting.
okaybut · 56-60, M
@goliathtree I agree. I get comfort in my insignificance in the Universe. And to some degree get comfort in the insignificance of the Universe itself (the collapsing and expanding). The Universe in infinite in space, now we can consider it to some part, infinite in Time. Utterly amazing and beautiful in its power.
Success · 26-30, F
All events should be subject to the same laws. I find this useful when addressing the prospect of a multiverse guaranteeing eternal existence. In this hypothesis all events get the same treatment, and this is in sharp contrast to the magical (supernatural) hypothesis where only humans (perhaps creatures too) can eternally exist.

The multiverse would represent perfect balance between creation and destruction. That's why I mention this application.
SW-User
Very interesting post...
SW-User
@okaybut Coming from Albert Camus...who would expect less?...😉
okaybut · 56-60, M
@SW-User Lol...exactly. 🤓
okaybut · 56-60, M
@okaybut Hmmm...."Even in those physical systems where equilibrium could be relevant, (1) live systems cannot persist in isolation and (2) the second principle of thermodynamics does not require that free energy be transformed into entropy along the shortest path: live organisms absorb energy from sunlight or from energy-rich chemical compounds and finally return part of such energy to the environment as entropy (heat and low free-energy compounds such as water and CO2)."

 
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