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Ever done a cost benefit analysis?

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Experiment and see if it works
Don't experiment because studies say it does't work.
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Lets say you have a store with valuables in it. You need to decide if you need to put a lock on the door. The cost $50.00 for a cheap lock. The benefit it will keep people from robbing the store while you are not there. The alternative is to not put a lock on the door and trust that no one ever breaks in to steal stuff. Both are realistic alternatives. Spend $50.00 and keep $5000.00 worth of stuff from being stolen or keep the $50.00 and maybe no one will break in and steal the stuff. I think most people would say that they would buy the lock.

Covid 19 happens. Someone suggests that a very safe drug be used to combat the illness. The history of the drug is very well known and it is so safe most doctors prescribe it without even doing a medical work up to see if it would be ok for you to take it. The cost about $10.00. The potential benefit is it helps thousands of people stay alive. If it doesn't work the patient is out $10.00. Let's look at the alternative. If the drug is not given there will be 10s of thousands of people dead. If the drug works there will be 10s of thousands of people still alive. We know that no drug will ever be 100% effective but lets say it is 25% effective and 75% ineffective. Well of the hundreds of thousands infected 25% more of them will be alive than if the drug is not used. If the drug is completely ineffective the patient is out $10.00.

Now I think the drug should be tried as do 50,000 doctors who recently signed a petition or are already using the drug. What is the cost per patient if it doesn't work? $10.00. What is the cost to the patient if it does work but he can't get it? His life. So the cost is either $10.00 or the patient's life. The benefit is saving $10.00 or saving thousands of patients lives. Why is this even a debate? If it works tremendous upside. Thousands of lives saved. If it doesn't work? The cost is about $10.00.
Elessar · 26-30, M
You could say the same about masks. Inexpensive, been used for a long time by dr. and even several non-healthcare categories of workers as well, with no side effects altogether (unlike HCQ, whose ones are known), at most they'll be useless and you'll have wasted less than $1.00. Yet you opposed them until the other day.

Besides, HCQ (I has been both studied and trialed (tested on covid-19 patients), the results have been published and and not really optimistic, specifically the death rate of the HCQ group is twice as high as the one of the control group
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[b]Results[/b]: Meta-analysis of 3 studies (n = 210) on viral clearance assessed by RT-PCR showed no benefit (RR, 1.05; 95% CI, 0.79 to 1.38; p = 0.74), although with a moderate heterogeneity (I2 = 61.7%, p = 0.07). While meta-analysis of 3 studies (n = 474) showed a significant increase in death with HCQ, compared to the control (RR, 2.17; 95% 1.32 to 3.57; p = 0.002), without any heterogeneity (I2 = 0.0%, p = 0.43).

[b]Conclusions[/b]: No benefit on viral clearance but a significant increase in mortality was observed with HCQ compared to control in patients with COVID-19. [/quote] [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32417708/]
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Elessar So you think masks are a good thing or bad. You study you cited is bogus just in case you are curious.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@hippyjoe1955 It's "bogus" because it doesn't match your agenda?

There are like 70 studies from a plethora of countries and many of which also pre-covid, so yeah, I'm more leaning to think it's better wear them (at most they'll be useless) than not wear them at all. As you said, "ever done a cost benefit analysis?"
In theory that would be good. But I wouldn't trust anything a doctor gives me. There's plenty of natural remedies to boost your immune system to fight the covid flu instead of relying on this or the future vaccine.
Quimliqer · 70-79, M
Your reasoning is solid, the only problem is the profits big pharma will reap for a Covid vaccine will be in jeopardy!!
Elessar · 26-30, M
@hippyjoe1955 Italy is capitalist FYI. Capitalism has roots in Florence during 1400-1500 iirc, lmao.

And no, we didn't "screw up", or at the very least we aren't persevering, rebelling against lockdowns or masks, and our daily mortality is almost zero:
(source: John Hopkins)
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Elessar Oh have screwed up royally. That is why Chinese nationals are doing all your work in Italy. Too Funny. You can't afford your socialist life style so you have import labour from China.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@hippyjoe1955 lmao, where do you read such bullcrap? Ferrero, Mediaset, FCA (ex-FIAT), Ferrari, Telecom Italia, Exor, Eni, Enel, Luxottica to name a few are Chinese in your opinion? xD

I've worked at 26 probably more hours than you ever worked in your entire lifetime, I would bet.
If I was positive for covid and showing symptoms, I would want the doctor to begin with the HCQ cocktail. It's cheap, widely available and has been around long enough to know the risk of side effects. Plenty of doctors claim it's effective and there are studies available claiming the same. I'm not saying it's a guaranteed cure, but a solid first approach to combating the disease.

 
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