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My dad is a racist. [I Need Advice]

So, we just watched the verdict of the Derek Chauvin trial, and I was almost in tears, happy that he was convicted. My dad starts talking about how there’s another camera angle of the video of him kneeing on Floyd and that he wasn’t on his neck. My dad is acting like he wants to prove that a white cop wouldn’t murder a black man. My dad also is racist towards Arabs, thinking that they’ll be dangerous which is so wrong. It pisses me off, and I almost don’t want to have a relationship with him anymore. Any advice?

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IWasCallingYaLarry · 26-30, M

I mean in the actual footage, Derek kept shifting his knee. If you did any research, you'd know that. If anything, he could've been charged with manslaughter if anything, but to charge him with second degree murder or anything would imply you can read his mind and knew what his intent was. The only reason they convicted him was because they're scared of the riots which will happen no matter what the verdict would have been, anyway. Derek was a bad cop, I agree. But if you can't even legitimately prove the charges, there's really no case due to reasonable doubt and I've listened to lawyers talk about this case saying that and even judges saying things. Your dad doesn't sound racist, he just did his research is all. The part about Arabs I think is dumb, too, but he's allowed to have his own opinions. If you're gonna hate your dad for thinking differently than you, you're an immature child.

SW-User

@IWasCallingYaLarry You don’t know what second degree murder is.

SW-User

They don’t like to have their fallacies pointed out @IWasCallingYaLarry

Slade · 56-60, M

@SW-User Sounds more like you are the one in the dark. To get a 2nd degree conviction you have to prove he 100% intended that he die. This wasn't done here.

SW-User

@Slade That isn’t what second degree murder is. Fucking look it up. 🤦🏻‍♀️

IWasCallingYaLarry · 26-30, M

@SW-User Pretty much. And again, not defending Derek. I think he should have penalties, but it's impossible to actually prove he was what killed George considering the other factors at play. His drug addiction and heart condition he had, etc. Nobody really can actually say how he died. Reasonable doubt.

IWasCallingYaLarry · 26-30, M

@Slade Exactly my point. The only way you can prove it is if you are a mind reader.

Slade · 56-60, M

@SW-User oh my lost angry child. I'm afraid that is the entire foundation for a 2nd degree conviction

SW-User

@IWasCallingYaLarry Intent is not a requirement for second degree murder. Where did you get this idea from?

IWasCallingYaLarry · 26-30, M

@SW-User I do. It means you had intended to kill someone. You just don't like that I pointed it out and don't like what I'm saying, so of course you wanna disregard everything I said.

SW-User

It was a political trial nothing else no one in the media cares about another thug child molester they just want ratings someone from CNN admitted they push agenda and aren’t honest people still watch willingly ignorant at this point lol@IWasCallingYaLarry

IWasCallingYaLarry · 26-30, M

@SW-User Uh, from actually doing research and listening to what ex cops and lawyers have said? If you can learn to use the internet and do some research for yourself, you'd know.

SW-User

@Slade @IWasCallingYaLarry

IWasCallingYaLarry · 26-30, M

@SW-User I know that. CNN literally was caught doing that. It's all political.

IWasCallingYaLarry · 26-30, M

@SW-User You literally just proved my point lol. Second degree means he would have intended to do it. You're saying you're a mind reader or something lol?

SW-User

People are still buying it’s interesting to watch and my parents definitely influence my views I won’t pretend to be an expert but I have tried and failed to see things from the other side for a couple years now @IWasCallingYaLarry

IWasCallingYaLarry · 26-30, M

@SW-User It's why I listen to people from the left, right, and center when it comes to politics. I don't watch or trust Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, or any of these establishment news companies because they're all trash and lie. I listen to independent media that isn't corporate backed establishment nonsense.

SW-User

@IWasCallingYaLarry Did you read the definition? XD

deadgerbil · 22-25

@SW-User it's mind numbing how this fool can't even read the definition of second degree murder, yet keeps talking lol

@IWasCallingYaLarry read this, if you can...

[quote]Typically, second-degree murder is defined as murder that is not premeditated, or murder that is caused by the offender's reckless conduct that displays an obvious lack of concern for human life.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/second_degree_murder
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IWasCallingYaLarry · 26-30, M

@SW-User Yeah, you just don't like that I don't agree with you. Sorry, but I'm not a tribalist and part of the cult. Sorry. Seeing as you will just keep repeating yourself and being a clown, it's pointless to even say anything else other than do your research. Have fun.

SW-User

@IWasCallingYaLarry You’re mad about something that you made up. I’m just trying to help you here

deadgerbil · 22-25

@IWasCallingYaLarry [quote]but to charge him with second degree murder or anything would imply you can read his mind and knew what his intent was.[/quote]

Says who exactly?

Read basic definitions before you spew BS

[quote]
Typically, second-degree murder is defined as [b]murder that is not premeditated[/b], or murder that is caused by the offender's reckless conduct that displays an obvious lack of concern for human life.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/second_degree_murder[/quote]

I love how easily you discredit yourself

SW-User

@deadgerbil Someone told him once that murder is intentional and manslaughter is accidental, and now he is going to believe it for the rest of his life.

deadgerbil · 22-25

@SW-User I've had the pleasure of interacting with him before. He is completely clueless on these issues. He even tried to tell me that I'm in the KKK for some bizarre reason even though I'm mixed lol

@IWasCallingYaLarry

[quote]Subd. 2.Unintentional murders. Whoever does either of the following is guilty of unintentional murder in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 40 years:

(2) causes the death of a human being without intent to effect the death of any person, while intentionally inflicting or attempting to inflict bodily harm upon the victim, when the perpetrator is restrained under an order for protection and the victim is a person designated to receive protection under the order.

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.19
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SW-User

@deadgerbil He's just going to say that it proves his point.

mikeylyksit · 41-45, M

@IWasCallingYaLarry QUICK!!! You deprive a human being of oxygen for 9 minutes. What is your intent?