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Murder have you ever seriously considered it?

I genuinely consider myself a pacifist, I honestly don't think the death penalty justifiable for even the absolute very worst crimes yet pretty much of no circumstance of my current situation isn't really managing to find me good reasons against murdering my tormentor, this seems as though it's a very genuine option because if I could do it my life would improve immeasurably , obviously to anyone who knows me this is just a completely ludicrous thing because it's just not a me thing, apart from anything else I ain't got what it takes to take this prat down physically never mind mentally, nevertheless it's genuinely looking like if I could it would quite honestly be the best option as being locked up has every chance of being a better quality of life for me than my life is currently and I don't see any other way out from here. I maybe be barking mad but I suspect even in prison you may actually get a whole nights sleep more freakin frequently than around once every three months which is my current norm (I live in such poor quality housing on such a crazy estate that even with a white noise machine going and earplugs in I get woken on average 2-5 times a night every night, that is of course only if I'm very feckin lucky and manage to get back to sleep after the first time I'm awoken each night, and I can not find a way out except waiting this out for at least 4 years (universal credit makes moving not possible) possibly more and I know full well I really can't go on much longer, never mind 4 years. So if I ain't yet managed to bore youse to death have you ever wanted to kill someone and if so why?
greenmountaingal · 70-79, F
I'm not bored. I empathize with your difficult situation. I am sorry you are going through this misery. I urge you to hang on to your civilized self and don't kill him. You would live to regret it. Find another way to handle it even if you have to move. Murder is not something you want to have to live with.

Yes, I have seriously considered killing someone. If you have read my Featured story under my Profile here, you already know who that person is....or was. I grew up believing that my mother might kill me. After living not knowing if I would be able to wake up the next morning, with severe insomnia, I had to consider if it would be right to kill my mother before she killed me. I came to the conclusion that I wouldn't be able to live with it. And I would almost certainly wind up in prison for the rest of my life which would ruin my life. I had to give up on any murder plans. Later on in my life, in my middle years, some things happened that made me rethink the murder idea. I was truly trapped in my life at that point. I knew my mother had probably killed people, if not with her own hands, then by picking up her phone and using her various mob connections or CP connections. I knew what she could do to people. Even when she didn't kill people, she could do things that made them wish she had. I wondered if it might be my actual duty to kill her if only to spare other people from her sadism and misuse of power. Also, as long as she was alive, she could--and would--do anything she wanted to humiliate and hurt me. I came to that conclusion after she did two things that made me feel that taking her life would be morally justifiable. The first was when she aggressively and painfully sexually molested me in her apartment one evening. Don't want to give too many of the ugly details here, but I had marks on my body from her hands and she thoroughly enjoyed watching me scream in pain and anger at her. I threatened to call the police pointing out to her that what she had just done was a felony; she just laughed. I never picked up the phone and made that call; knowing my mother's connections inside the criminal justice system, I knew that if I reported her, when the dust settled, it was likely that [u][i]I[/i][/u] was the one who would be arrested, not her. The second incident that shocked me into a realization of my helplessness was too awful to tell here; basically, she killed our friend's cat, and I love cats, and I really loved this one. I still can't bear to tell this awful story. Our friend never fully recovered from the incident herself; it broke her mental and physical health. My mother enjoyed referring to the details of this story in conversations and then watching me with a sneaky smile on her face to see how I took it. She had done it to punish me for not cancelling a social event to spend the day with her and she liked to remind me of how cruel and sadistic she could be. She knew I realistically feared she would kill my cat next; once she even made a direct threat about it and I took a photo of my cat and a photo of my mother and gave these photos to my neighbors telling them the basic story so that my pet would have my neighbors aware of the danger. I went to work every day worrying that my cat wouldn't be there when I got home. The stress was very real and wore me down.

One lesson I learned over the years was that my mother was fully capable of [i] anything[/i]; murder, as well as killing a pet, were well within her range. And I was sure she would get away with it considering what she had already gotten away with in my life and the lives of others. Either I had to work on total obedience to her wishes or I had to kill her.

I agonized over it, looking for a solution, but finally decided to leave murder or other violent crimes out of the equation. It was not an easy decision. She died of old age in her 90s about 15 years ago and yet I still wonder if it would have been better if I had killed her. I am pleased that I had the character to resist killing a human being. I believe it would have been a bad mistake. But the fact that it came up for serious consideration in my mind is still a sad and scary thought for me.
The last few days were the closest I've ever came to that feeling. I do feel a lot better now as you know. But this will be an ongoing conversation for me. As is I'm still going back & forth on how to handle it.

& I'm so sorry that's happening. 🤗
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@SevenTierCrazyCake Twas kinda ironic as though our circs are totally different I could feel just how you felt, the timing of this is quite wild....
@AntisocialTroll it was actually. You're right.
goliathtree · 56-60, M
Daily. Although maim beyond recognition might be more personally satisfying.

Why? A myriad of reasons.
SW-User
Yes once seriously.

I ended up 24 hours in police custody. I realised it wasn't a good idea.
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@SW-User Blimey! I totally understand if you don't want to explain the circumstances but if it's not too nosy I'd love to know?
SW-User
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@SW-User Thank you. I'll look forward to it, honestly fascinated...
MasterofNone · 26-30, M
I do agree about the living conditions in jail as compared to real life but I always wondered about making the little crimes to get there. I never thought of killing someone as much as I have thought about destroying their lives. Because well they must witness their life going bad and feel the pain lol.
damselfly · 100+, F
I've certainly seriously considered murder many times. Thinking about it is enough though. Never had the inclination at the same time as the opportunity, but...
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@damselfly Lol, does the but at the end of your sentence mean you're glad or sad at not having had both at the same time?
damselfly · 100+, F
@AntisocialTroll Well I guess it could be a warning that I don't have the gift of prophecy
SW-User
In my dreams I have murdered. Very shocking. But no, would never consider doing that unless I had the power to stop someone from harming a family member. Then I would kill to protect them without hesitation.
DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F
As bad as things are for me right now, no. I've never considered murder.

Also- you will definitely not get sleep in prison. Ask anyone who has been there.
I totally “get” why you want him smutted out. This story ties it all together. My heart is sad for you. 😘😘😘
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@Kathburglar I just want out but as you know it ain't happening right now, here's hoping we ALL survive lol.
perceptivei · 36-40, F
Omg. That was intense.

[quote] I really can't go on much longer, never mind 4 years. So if I ain't yet managed to bore youse to death have you ever wanted to kill someone and if so why?[/quote]

I did today. It only lasted about 6 minutes though. For a split second (six minutes), I imagined someone (people) [b]attempting[/b] to take advantage of my brother. I had this brief organized crime scare. I got over it.

I've never really thought about hurting someone else like that until today. Never had to... 🤷‍♀️
HannahSky · F
No, I haven't ever, but I do think about being prepared for self defense if needed.
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@HannahSky This is the kinda of guy that if he attacks me I'm sure it'll be from behind, he is completely unable to look me in the face, I've a horrid feeling I may look like his mother.
HannahSky · F
@AntisocialTroll doesn't sound safe at all
BlueMetalChick · 26-30, F
Unfortunately, yes. I've struggled with homicidal urges for most of my life. And the worst part is that I sound edgy and angsty when I talk about it, so I try to keep it to myself cos I'm worried people will think I'm a tryhard or something, like "Oh yeah I'm such an edgelord cos I think about killing people, ooh be scared of me."
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@BlueMetalChick Anytime you might wish to talk please hit me up, I so relate to that right now.
perceptivei · 36-40, F
Never had to...how bout youse?
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@perceptivei Yes but thankfully I'm not physically capable and doubt I could manage it mentally either but some days...
SW-User
[quote]So if I ain't yet managed to bore youse to death have you ever wanted to kill someone and if so why?[/quote]

Haha

And the answer is no.

I remember thinking as a kid that would be horrific even in self defence.
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@SW-User I never thought I might be able to kill even in self defence but it's surprising just how tempting the thought is even though I know I've not got the physical capacity to do him in meself. ...
Lostpoet · M
What happens when the tormentor is yourself
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@Lostpoet And if you have no way of moving what then? To move costs me around 2 grand as I'm now too disabled to pack up my own flat so it needs a proper removals firm with packers, thanks to a change in the benefits system this also will cost me the loss of £800 a year in benefits forever more and as an added bonus the benefits changes will mean I would be without any income whatsoever for a full 5 weeks straight after having to borrow the 2 grand I'd need to do the actual move, I really would love it if some bright spark could come up with an answer to my problem but short of being fecking miraculously cured of multiple degenerative ailments that do quite genuinely make it seriously rough coping with my housework so I'm regularly forced to live in squalor as I simply can't afford to pay a cleaner and do useful things like eating too never mind an actual job and being able to work, I would be fascinated. Too add to that I live in social housing in literally one of the worst estates in my country and there is no housing officer to get me moved even if I had the money. So what exactly do you think my options are? Should I perhaps spend every penny of my pittable benefits on the ruddy lotto in case I get lucky and manage to the win the money for a private rental instead? I don't mean to be rude to you me dear but you are clueless when it comes to this.

The real pisser is that this is now the norm for the disabled in the UK, bare in mind the regular benefits reviews where they chuck you off your benefit because hey look you were well enough to move or to have the damn audacity to look well despite being disabled so you must be well enough to work now mustn't you!? That's pretty much yearly too, I'm helluva lucky I only need to fight there decision around 50% of the time so obviously I'ma just raking it in and can afford to pay for a private rental with a deposit.
Lostpoet · M
@AntisocialTroll How is he tormenting you? You should tell a neighbor or someone in person because if I lived next you and you told me this story in person then I'd grab my baseball bat tap on the assholes door with it and give him a good warning once he opened his door that he shouldn't be giving the disabled a hard time and if continuous to do it I'd make sure he got his in the end.
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@Lostpoet Too long and involved to explain the hows, you really wouldn't believe it anyway it's so extreme at times but now others in the building are aware of it and not pleased, this is not good as the sort of place I live in the whole violence thing is very popular!

Much as there are days I'd like to murder the lil fecker meself if someone else hurt him because of my situation I would be genuinely devastated, as awful as he is this bloke is seriously mentally unwell and I don't believe for a second people like him really choose to be as they are. I also really couldn't take the consequences if someone else did him in and had to suffer a prison sentence because he tortures me.
Jessmari · 41-45
Not to any serious degree. Maybe slap em around a bit but I don't even act on that although my neighbors might benefit from it.
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@Jessmari Lol, no slapping about has occurred I'ma 4'9'' and he's a body building gym bunny so unless I could somehow manage to be as different both mentally or physically I've no chance...but hey this dumb twunt has twice tried to attack two of the guys of this building both of whom have never prior had so much as a disagreement with anyone on my estate let alone an actual fight and one of the peeps, whom having done literally nothing but defend himself he's gone for a totally understandably guilty plea despite doing nothing but defending himself rather than fight any kinda court case as his mam had not long died and it was just too much for him .I live in the sort of estate CH 4 makes docs from though we ain't yet been on the telly,but as he's literally only able to bully physically weaker or those who are really struggling (and you wouldn't beleive how good this bloke is at picking on peeps when they are at their most vulnerable he's currently able to run amok (I'm disabled, trust me thats the only reason he's not been slapped by me personally)and anyone else he seems to manage to have prosecuted because he's so very mentally ill with his personality disorders he's able to convince the court HE IS BEING PICKED ON! (this man has been evicted in the past for way less than he's getting away with now but my local council really are that crap 3 people have already moved out of my building because of this charmer in the last two years and if I get my way I will be the forth as they simply don't have either the wits or the will to deal with him snag is it'll cost me money for years to come due to the benefits system so theoretically I could move but as my local council does not believe it right to give points for harassment I'm stuck, screwed, buggered etc even if I'm prepared to lose me disability premium and the extra rights that went with it I really need I have no way of moving as having put in all the forms over a month ago my area has no housing officer hasn't had for the last two years so all I ever do is talk to temps who literally do nothing.

Please excuse, me world salad and despair, certainly hadn't expected to spill me guts on a simple reply but I just needed to bleat very sorry.
Jessmari · 41-45
@AntisocialTroll Your situation sounds very frustrating and I can understand that. I hope you find a way out it or the guy ends up getting booted somehow to reduce that stressful atmosphere.
SW-User
As a child I prayed constantly for someone to die . Then I just gave up and prayed to die. I was too afraid to actually kill the piece of garbage myself.
Then.
SW-User
Kind of.

I've thought of how I'd like people to die. But watching them die slowly and painfully and lonely.
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@SW-User Thank you for that, as I sit here listening to him yet again having been unable to sleep all night I really don't need him to die slowly painfully and lonely(though trust me tis tempting), this poor twat is quite literally the most sad and lonely mental man I've known in my lifetime, on a personally good day (you know if I'ma lucky that's about once every six months now)I'd just like him well, the rest of the time I want beat the prat to death with my bare hands and I don't have the capacity to do so nor anyway of getting outta here, I know there must be an answer I just can't see it. X
SW-User
@AntisocialTroll You need a break. We all do. It's cathartic. Helps us see things differently
Vetrov · 61-69, M
Sounds like “Disneyland”.....
AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
@Vetrov Nope sadly not fiction...

 
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