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Allelse · 36-40, M
Because the holocaust is a bigger deal than slavery, genocide is a bigger deal than slavery. Especially when its a civilised country which should have known better. Just like how slavery in America was a big deal, as they were a civilised country who should have known better, and yet, it took to the mid 1800s for them to get rid of slavery and even then, they had to kill a half million of their own people to accomplish it. While the evil British 'imperialists!!' with which the Americans threw off in light of liberty and equality and all that crap, not only outlawed slavery within their own country but took to doing all they could to destroy the maritime slave trade, as well as taking the fight to places in Africa to destroy the African slave trade.
To conclude - When its a bunch of mad natives running about hacking each other to bits, people feel that they dont know any better. But when you have well educated, decent people are either supporting genocide or slavery then it becomes big deal. And slavery is about using people for labour, genocide is simply about death. Death. And killing an entire group of people is worst than enslaving them.
To conclude - When its a bunch of mad natives running about hacking each other to bits, people feel that they dont know any better. But when you have well educated, decent people are either supporting genocide or slavery then it becomes big deal. And slavery is about using people for labour, genocide is simply about death. Death. And killing an entire group of people is worst than enslaving them.
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@Allelse that's true ._.
Very true and dignified
Very true and dignified
KayraJordyn · F
There's nothing dignified about being shot like a rabid dog, Pirate. That fantastical view just might do well with some modification.
That doesn't mean I'd rather be enslaved. Just that it would give any one of us a chance to be more than a corpse. To me, that's worth fighting for, until my time comes. But then, I have only suffered in my own way. Even though I may have suffered dearly, by modern terms, perhaps, I am definitely blessed beyond words. Still, I'm not beyond imagining many an imprisoned or enslaved man or woman has seen his or her own blessings received even when sorrows have risen.
I will not pretend to know what the suffering that slaves have endured would mean to them. The hope of death would sometimes, indeed, be a mercy. Just as it would for starving, work-slaves who were required to also be less than human in the holocaust. Their deaths were more certain than slaves. But every life MATTERS. So. That minimizes NOBODY'S suffering. At least, not to me. @SW-User
That doesn't mean I'd rather be enslaved. Just that it would give any one of us a chance to be more than a corpse. To me, that's worth fighting for, until my time comes. But then, I have only suffered in my own way. Even though I may have suffered dearly, by modern terms, perhaps, I am definitely blessed beyond words. Still, I'm not beyond imagining many an imprisoned or enslaved man or woman has seen his or her own blessings received even when sorrows have risen.
I will not pretend to know what the suffering that slaves have endured would mean to them. The hope of death would sometimes, indeed, be a mercy. Just as it would for starving, work-slaves who were required to also be less than human in the holocaust. Their deaths were more certain than slaves. But every life MATTERS. So. That minimizes NOBODY'S suffering. At least, not to me. @SW-User
UndeadPrivateer · 31-35, M
About 17 million died in the Holocaust over about 12 years.
About 12 million Africans were transported in the Atlantic Slave Trade and as many as 4 million died in Africa while acquiring those 12 million all over the course of about 300 years.
Those are [i]vastly[/i] different scales.
About 12 million Africans were transported in the Atlantic Slave Trade and as many as 4 million died in Africa while acquiring those 12 million all over the course of about 300 years.
Those are [i]vastly[/i] different scales.
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@UndeadPrivateer then this leads to think, it isn't about how bad one is in comparison to the other. Let's say the Holocaust was completed. The answer is why? ._.
You don't know who you are even killing but you still kill them based on am arbitrary identity :v
Makes ya think. And this is why I like talking to you. You're real and don't ever take offense to my questions about OPENLY and unapologetically how I see things :v
Really, you change me broski
I appreciate it
You don't know who you are even killing but you still kill them based on am arbitrary identity :v
Makes ya think. And this is why I like talking to you. You're real and don't ever take offense to my questions about OPENLY and unapologetically how I see things :v
Really, you change me broski
I appreciate it
UndeadPrivateer · 31-35, M
@SW-User The Holocaust was a government endorsed systematic attempt to exterminate entire peoples for the purpose of acquiring political power and to enforce a racially based nationalistic ideology. One thing you're not getting is that they did know who they're killing, and that's [i]why they're killing them[/i]. It's not an arbitrary identity, they weren't just picking people at random, they picked specific groups that identified with specific cultures to exterminate them like you would roaches in an apartment complex. And that's exactly the kind of messaging that was used in the propaganda machine, to paint these groups as nothing more than pests in need of extermination. There were many cases of [i]families turning against each other[/i]. These were not all just strangers killing random strangers. And yes, not everyone was aware of the numbers of people being killed (though boy were there rumors, by all accounts), but the outright vilification was pretty relatively universal.
By comparison, slavery was just people exploiting others to make money. Some people died in the process, yes. Others were oppressed. It's highly unfortunate but it was not on the scale of the holocaust unless you are purposefully deluding yourself.
By comparison, slavery was just people exploiting others to make money. Some people died in the process, yes. Others were oppressed. It's highly unfortunate but it was not on the scale of the holocaust unless you are purposefully deluding yourself.
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@UndeadPrivateer I know the targeted identities were not arbitrary, but what I was attempting to articulate and have t pay minute attention to now was that the selection of these identities was arbitrary. An idea was brought and it this idea encompassed a preferred race and classified the rest as defective. This aspect of it being literally chosen to be this way based on relatively subjective political perception and arguments is what makes the selection fundamentally irrational was what I was trying to say. Although the targets are clear, the selection of the targets was what I meant :p
You are gunna have a hard time dealing with my scrambling brain from these exams, but I find this healthy and very informative
You are gunna have a hard time dealing with my scrambling brain from these exams, but I find this healthy and very informative
AnonymousJSS · 22-25, F
AnonymousJSS · 22-25, F
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@AnonymousJSS the intentions are totally incomparable. One was way worst. All I am saying is that one was practically global and packed an equal punch. The holocaust caused as much damage as savery but somehow, intentions factor in .-.
And time is taken out. And lingering systemic effects, too
And time is taken out. And lingering systemic effects, too
AnonymousJSS · 22-25, F
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
The easy answer is that it's more historically recent and the US has a large Jewish population.
The more complicated answer is that downplaying slavery is to the specific advantage of the social powers that continue to benefit from its legacy.
There's also been a huge spike in antisemitism recently (every time someone says George Soros take a shot) so that contributes while anti-black racism is bad and has always been bad.
The more complicated answer is that downplaying slavery is to the specific advantage of the social powers that continue to benefit from its legacy.
There's also been a huge spike in antisemitism recently (every time someone says George Soros take a shot) so that contributes while anti-black racism is bad and has always been bad.
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@CountScrofula honestly, racism against black people has been and will probably stay for a while, but it's relatively on a low. I think anti-Semitism has been on a high for sure recently :v
Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
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@Jackaloftheazuresand I am slightly confused bro
Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
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@Jackaloftheazuresand yeah. It is about the total damage
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@SW-User I AM an American 😂
My question is about why an event that is local to the U.S. with events still lingering is less publicized and made public than an event that carried out overseas that the U.S. stopped overseas .-.
My question is about why an event that is local to the U.S. with events still lingering is less publicized and made public than an event that carried out overseas that the U.S. stopped overseas .-.
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@SW-User true :v
Good point
Good point
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
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MarmeeMarch · M
Because killing 6 million jews was worse than the african people that captured their own the English and Dutch all made money packing africans in ships lots of whom did not make it and shipped their own people to the USA where they knew they would be used the way they were and treated the way they were. So yep slavery is the fault of the british ,dutch and african people. Follow the money trail. [image deleted]
KayraJordyn · F
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@KayraJordyn it is :v
Here in the U.S.
Here in the U.S.
InOtterWords · F
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@InOtterWords I agree. Obviously, they're huge calamities on an equal death toll but unequal damage scale. The lingering damage of slavery is much worse upon simple inspection. I just wonder why a foreign event and problem that COMPLETELY ended is still more popular up to date
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@BlueMetalChick 😂
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Just remember King Troll got you again
KayraJordyn · F
(Far-deviant? -Really?- @SW-User)
If a slave suffered, God help him or her, and bless their soul. If a holocaust victim suffered, God help him or her, and bless their soul. If we trivialize one life or another, by comparison or by any other means, God help -our- souls. We lived. Lets honor those who didn't, ALL who didn't, and should have, and bless those who did. Truly.
A numbers game in this fashion, considering the grave nature of those events being discussed, is in very poor taste.
If a slave suffered, God help him or her, and bless their soul. If a holocaust victim suffered, God help him or her, and bless their soul. If we trivialize one life or another, by comparison or by any other means, God help -our- souls. We lived. Lets honor those who didn't, ALL who didn't, and should have, and bless those who did. Truly.
A numbers game in this fashion, considering the grave nature of those events being discussed, is in very poor taste.
KayraJordyn · F
It means, "You're a subhmane mess" or something like that. @SW-User @BlueMetalChick
