There's new scientific data that sexuality is fluid and can change over time due to various factors

@plungesponge: There's the whole "downlow" situation, though. Just because men don't "brag" doesn't mean they're not getting together quietly---that's just a question of what's socially acceptable. Modern society has apparently decided that lesbian and bisexual women are less of a threat.

Sorry, I don't buy it. Straight guys tend to get a gut-level reaction to the thought of kissing a man (or even just seeing another man kiss a man). It's just not the same with women and I'm skeptical that there is an equivalent pool of guys out there that are just keeping it secret because of societal expectations.

I'm not saying whether one is right or wrong, but I believe sexuality for guys is far more binary and fixed than with women, that's why I'm asking how this study was set up.

@plungesponge: I respectfully suggest you might be generalizing based upon your own reaction. There [b]are[/b] plenty of women who would remain celibate before they'd touch another woman sexually, and some guys who have allowed other guys to "service" them as a matter of convenience, no kissing involved. And they [b]still[/b] consider themselves straight.

@kronos: That comes from a desire to satisfy that type of curiosity, right ?

no.. theres a sense of curiosity. not a desire.

@kronos: Of course it's a desire. To satisfy that curiosity. It wouldn't otherwise exist.

@Pherick: There are a lot which you can find by doing a google search. https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22730310-100-sexuality-is-fluid-its-time-to-get-past-born-this-way/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/standard-deviations/201605/sexuality-is-much-more-fluid-you-think

And I am also speaking from personal experience

@rickfreeman15: Thank you for posting sources, I appreciate it. I can't read much of the newscientist article as its behind a paywall. But this from the beginning,
[quote]It means that people are born with a sexual orientation and also with a degree of sexual flexibility, and they appear to work together. So there are gay people who are very fixedly gay and there are gay people who are more fluid, meaning they can experience attractions that run outside of their orientation.[/quote]

I don't think this is very new is it? I mean some people find they become bi later in life, some know they are gay right away, some people hide it and come out later. I guess I am just not sure how this is new? Maybe there is more later in the article I can't read.

This from the psychologytoday article,[quote]In addition, I think for some folks, sexual fluidity is merely a matter of uncovering. In other words, they may not have realized they were interested in some aspect of sexuality until they tried it and realized that they enjoyed it.[/quote]

This seems pretty normal to me? I mean, how would you know you like something until you try it?

I guess my point is that I don't know if this is anything new. I think most LGBT folks would say they knew from birth they were different, but how and what they liked I am sure changed as they got older and tried things. Thats seems like anyone, homosexual or heterosexual?

I don't think it negates the claims of "born that way" at all.

@Pherick: See, now [b]that[/b] makes sense, and it fits with the experience described by many people in the LGBT community whom I've known for decades

@AcidBurn: because everyone kept hearing how being gay means you were born that way when it's possible they changed over time

@rickfreeman15: That's not what I asked. This study says sexuality can change over time. What about that says it means it has to start with being born straight, or can't start with being born gay?

@bijouxbroussard: I didn't say it was a choice. I said it changes over time. But its not unchangeable. I myself have experienced this.

@rickfreeman15: People who say it's something from birth are usually refuting claims that sexual orientation is a choice.