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I Am not happy with the Democrats

They had better get their acts together by the run-off election in June.
The GOP ran 5 candidates against 1 democrat
If they couldn't win last night in Georgia, god help them!!!
If the message wasn't cohesive coming from 1 vs 5, this doesn't bode well.
How could they possibly lose that special election last night?

And when will they learn?????
You can not win by merely being AGAINST.
You have to be FOR what people want.

They need a cohesive message.
A competent strategy.
They need all hands on deck when it comes to these special elections.
Where was Obama? Biden? Pelosi? Where were all the stalwarts of the party?


Now the GOP will have one candidate in the June run-off. Realistically they will clean Democrats clock. They won't have their interests spread among 5, and they will now fight tooth and nail to retain control of the seat.

Where was the message
And WHAT IS THAT message?

If they can't win right now with Trump being in the tank for months, god help them when he does something the country rallies behind and his poll numbers increase! Whether he will attack someone rightly or wrongly doesn't matter ... his poll numbers will go up regardless should that happen. People will get a surge of patriotism and rally behind him.

Yes, it was a GOP seat, but Trump had only won it by 2% points after Romney had it by 23 points..
It was low hanging fruit, ripe for the picking.

What's new. They dropped the ball.
Again.
hlpflwthat · M
Agree - for the most part. Once Price's confirmation was confirmed in February, Perez's overhaul and mass resignation at the DNC should have been postponed till after this GA election.

This [i]wasn't[/i] a scheduled election - a certainty for less than 2 months. But Price was nominated already in late November. This should have been on DNC's radar long before yours or mine.

Given that the DNC's offices - and probably their coffers - are pretty bare at the moment, it isn't much surprise they didn't pull this off. Perez requested his 'start from scratch.' He'd best get his ass in gear - and pay some attention to that guy who should probably be in charge of this new DNC - Keith Ellison.

As you've pointed out, they're already behind. Campaigning is full-time today, like it or not, especially for House members.
CassandraFemale17 · 26-30, F
@hlpflwthat: good lord. I wasnt suggesting to ignore 2018. Not once. I was saying every election until then matters in a very big way. And any election before then is a huge opportunity especially given Trumps current unpopularity.

If we say forget about these one by one elections and only wait and concentrate efforts on all seats in 2018, this is a catastrophic strategy. We have to take advantage of Trumps unpopuality NOW, keeping in mind that any new seat we win, will have a Dem history when the midterms come about in 2018. And incumbents hold the advantage.

In the meantime, Trump has a thousand opportunities to do something to raise his popularity over the next 19 months, and make it harder for Dems to gain seats.

Not once have I said cling to the past. That would be a devastating position to moving forward.

But we have to field candidates who spark interest. And not be the Howdy Doodie smiley candidates like Tim Kaine, and not be cardboard personality types like this current one in Georgia. They have to have appeal!

But in addition to candidates with appeal, the party itself needs to have a message that resonates.

If w couldn't pull this one off with 5 GOP candidates fighting it out, we will have a harder time now that they will support only 1.

My point was, in this fight, the time was now, and now will rapidly fade into the past. The fire under the GOP has been lit. They will fight for this huge. At the same time, the Democrats momentum will be fading.

Again, each seat matters, and each special election. The more of them we win before 2018, the more seats we hold going into the midterms. And the ones holding the seat has a statistically greater probability of holding it. Simple.

This seat was open. Is open. And we have probably lost it as we didn't win it when the GOP were at each other trying to win it.

Go look at videos of Osoff who nearly won. Try to not fall asleep. The Democrats keep nominating these nicely nicely smiley do-gooders instead of the fighters we need.

That is forward looking. Not backward.
hlpflwthat · M
My words ...
[quote] Respectfully, I've gotta say 2018 is infinitely more important than now, in my opinion. And I would hope in the opinion of the DNC.

I understand the opportunity and the chagrin at blowing this. But given the choice, I would choose big victory in '18 over these seats in 2017.[/quote]

Your next words ...
[quote] respectfully you are mostly wrong. And very, at that.[/quote]

Can you show me where I said forget about this election? I think I agreed with everything you said about it.
CassandraFemale17 · 26-30, F
@hlpflwthat: I am not arguing.

Of course we want a big victory in 2018. We all do. There will not be enough special elections before then to upset the balance of power.

But these special elections are like a kind of thermometer taking The temperature out there. And if we Dems don't get it together fast, and start winning these easier elections, forget what we 'want' in '18.

Yes when all 435 seats are running at the same time, the chances appear greater. But they only appear that way if we are losing all the small battles up until then, we should expect to continue to lose them.

We will have proved we are not ready. Of course it's far more exciting to win 30, 40, 60 extra seats. But if we think one seat doesn't matter, we are lost.
dems have no message the people want to hear..
CassandraFemale17 · 26-30, F
@ECHO22: errrrr I believe I just said that
I am agreeing
WeighedDown · 36-40, M
I am unhappy with American politics period.
CassandraFemale17 · 26-30, F
@Mulder: amen to that!
sighmeupforthat · 46-50, M
egads.. don't you repugs do anything other than sit around all day whining about the dems?

who's paying your bills? the taxpayer?

STOP!
CassandraFemale17 · 26-30, F
@ECHO22: it just read as nonsense. I was only trying to save you the tsunami of negatives you would have received. And rightly so!

Lol
understand, thanks
CassandraFemale17 · 26-30, F
@sighmeupforthat: as a fellow Democrat, I will help try win this for the Dems.

I hope you will do the same.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
Sadly, look at the way the election districts are set up. Democrats tend to be well-ediucated, wetc. and so they move to certain small areas of the country. :(
CassandraFemale17 · 26-30, F
@ChipmunkErnie: the Republicans have been extraordinarily successful too in Gerrymandering districts.

A subject most people haven't a clue about, have never heard about, and don't even know what it means, nevermind that it's happened.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
Most Americans are ignorant.
CassandraFemale17 · 26-30, F
@ChipmunkErnie: we are talking Georgia here!

Land of two guns in my front pockets and one in the rear.

Whoever shouts the loudest must be right
firefall · 61-69, M
The thing is, in a special election, the GOP weren't running with the incubus of Trump on their backs. GIven it's Newts old seat, I'd think that they've achieved as much as can be expected.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
The message is that there is still hope for America!!!
CassandraFemale17 · 26-30, F
@ChipmunkErnie: the message is, winning that seat may have just slipped through their grasp.

With 5 Republicans fighting it out.... now condensed to one candidate they can rally around.... in a GOP traditional seat....

The noose just tightened around Dem chances
Niburu · 51-55, M
Was there any other political party running a candidate?

 
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