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Peppa · 31-35, F
For me I don't believe so. especially when it comes to children.
Personally I think it requires someone with patience to find the right learning methods for this child. I believe the same love and care we show autistic/aspergers children add/adhd deserves
Personally I think it requires someone with patience to find the right learning methods for this child. I believe the same love and care we show autistic/aspergers children add/adhd deserves
Winterwanderer · 26-30, M
Yeah, I don't think society really does much to accommodate for these people, in fact, I think because these people don't fit the mould and have so little accommodation, they are ravaged by those many things which are so simple & easy to most others.
Many don't ever learn how to find their place, nor do they learn how to arrive at this place.
Many don't ever learn how to find their place, nor do they learn how to arrive at this place.
greenmountaingal · 70-79, F
@nedkelly From observing some of my acquaintances, if you doctor shop, you can eventually find a doctor who will make this diagnosis. A friend of mine went to 11 doctors before she got the diagnosis she wanted. People who are the parents of "special needs" children get respect and are often seen as noble, struggling parents, while the parents of an unruly out of control child get only criticism and scorn.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
RubySoo · 56-60, F
I work with kids. Ive seen both sides of the coin. Ive seen children who are genuine cases not medicated and who....altnough are really hard work and often disruptive in a classroom do well with plenty of support. But if course they dont get required support ( officially) without a diagnosis....and many are not diagnoised. Ive know kids who are medicated become lethargic as a result of being medicated...it completely changes them.. not always for the better. I know kids( medicated kids) who can arrive at school and within minutes of arriving staff can tell instantly theyve forgotten to take their meds. Then theres those who it indeniably works well for. One child i supported a couple of yrs ago....once his meds were balanced...he was able to focus and he began to shine at school.
We also see in the education system dozens of parents pushing to get diagnosis for their kids...often kids we as teaching staff dont see as being ADD or ADHD. Its worth noting....families on benefits get extra money for these kids.
In genuine cases the correct medication can work wonders. But...it has to be taken correctly...exactly te ssme time every day.....and in my experience....many parents dont ensure this happens. So......
We also see in the education system dozens of parents pushing to get diagnosis for their kids...often kids we as teaching staff dont see as being ADD or ADHD. Its worth noting....families on benefits get extra money for these kids.
In genuine cases the correct medication can work wonders. But...it has to be taken correctly...exactly te ssme time every day.....and in my experience....many parents dont ensure this happens. So......
Winterwanderer · 26-30, M
Exactly the kind of response I was looKing for! Yeah, I was, I believe, accurately diagnosed as having ADHD as a child, I was pretty unruly, & even now I find it difficult to do many things that other people find it easy to do...
But I never took medication, & I struggle to determine whether it would've been ultimately beneficial for me, as well as how it's really beneficial for those others who use it.
I see some of my friends with ADHD who've taken the route of medication, & I can see pretty clearly how it has & how it currently affects them, I often find people don't develope self control or patience on their own, & when they are off their medication they lose their ability completely to focus on much for long, or in depth.
But yet, I feel like, if I took it, it would split me in half, yet both sides would be unlike who I am now, one would be lethargic & somewhat aloof, while the other would be distant in a different way, unable to remain in the present moment for lack of control.
But I feel I don't have much control as it is, and would the control I gain from medication be worth the control I would lose in becoming dependant upon it?
I don't know, there aren't many good, specific answers I've receive.
But I never took medication, & I struggle to determine whether it would've been ultimately beneficial for me, as well as how it's really beneficial for those others who use it.
I see some of my friends with ADHD who've taken the route of medication, & I can see pretty clearly how it has & how it currently affects them, I often find people don't develope self control or patience on their own, & when they are off their medication they lose their ability completely to focus on much for long, or in depth.
But yet, I feel like, if I took it, it would split me in half, yet both sides would be unlike who I am now, one would be lethargic & somewhat aloof, while the other would be distant in a different way, unable to remain in the present moment for lack of control.
But I feel I don't have much control as it is, and would the control I gain from medication be worth the control I would lose in becoming dependant upon it?
I don't know, there aren't many good, specific answers I've receive.
adhd is almost always dietary related. reactions to certain foods mess with neurotransmitters.. its becoming more prevalent because the destruction of our diets on society is reaching a head.. with gene expression from the pregnant mothers, antibiotics prescribed too early killing gut bacteria, sugar and monster grains with too much gluten causing leaky gut and way too much processed food.. you have a perfect cocktail for adhd. Its an autoimmune response too the body attacking proteins that cross the blood brain barrier.. My son has adhd and I wish i had known all this sooner.. but ive caught it now. We treat his problems quite well just by removing gluten, dairy, processed food and making sure he gets probiotics and enough minerals from his food.
also its so much hard work and many parents dont have the patience or skill to deal with it so medication is better than nothing.. although that easy way out is probably why their kid has adhd in the first place.. it was for me. I ate crap when i was pregnant and got sick.. had a preemie and a c section and he was on glucse drip and medication before he even had his first milk. Then I was a tired busy mama who found it easier to give him frozen dinners. A far cry from these days, hes 6 now and he takes a full packed salad, fruit and home made sugar dairy and gluten free cake to school every day, has home cooked meals every day, no take out.. It is more than most parents have time for and their pateince cracks the second their kid starts refusing veggies and screaming for macdonalds.. the healthy diet basically makes us make those chemicals naturally in our own body.
katielass · F
I don't personally know any kids who've been prescribed those but my question is why so many hyperactive kids suddenly. When I was growing up there weren't kids who were like that. We were told to sit down and shut up and we did. It didn't present a problem for anyone that I recall. I have to wonder if it was all the drugs my generation did. And subsequent generations have done but we pretty much started the widespread use.
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katielass · F
@Fgtyjhbndfdrgt I just don't remember any kids getting in trouble for not being able to be quiet or still. Could be I just wasn't exposed to them.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
The world was just different, and far less information rich. I grew up in the Soviet 80s, where we hardly had any television, no video games, no internet, etc.
It was an absolute shock when I came to US, and everything was loud and bright, with constant messages, commercials, etc vying for my attention - definitely a sensory overload, one that took me a long time to get used to. And that was in the 90s, before proper internet, or social media, a computer in every pocket, etc.
These days kids marinate in this stuff from birth, it is no wonder that their brains are developing differently. Stulimuli is what drives brain development after all - and these days it never ever stops, or even pauses. The ADHD epidemic, oversold as it is, is ultimately misguided adaptation to modern conditions.
It was an absolute shock when I came to US, and everything was loud and bright, with constant messages, commercials, etc vying for my attention - definitely a sensory overload, one that took me a long time to get used to. And that was in the 90s, before proper internet, or social media, a computer in every pocket, etc.
These days kids marinate in this stuff from birth, it is no wonder that their brains are developing differently. Stulimuli is what drives brain development after all - and these days it never ever stops, or even pauses. The ADHD epidemic, oversold as it is, is ultimately misguided adaptation to modern conditions.
Winterwanderer · 26-30, M
Debatable, to an extent, the epidemic itself is indeed a result of modern conditions, but the genuine condition itself presents itself differently among those who actually have a disorder (Not just a lack of discipline or concern).
EniaE · 22-25, F
I was diagnosed with ADD and put on adderall, I was a zombie on that stuff. During 8th or 9th grade I just stopped taking it and refused it when ever I could despite what my foster parents and caseworkers said.
No I’ve graduated and I’m in college with out help from any medication.
While ADD/ADHD is real I think it was way over diagnosed and medicine treating them is over prescribed.
No I’ve graduated and I’m in college with out help from any medication.
While ADD/ADHD is real I think it was way over diagnosed and medicine treating them is over prescribed.
Winterwanderer · 26-30, M
I feel like I lack almost any self control though without it, and I haven't even taken the medicine.
greenmountaingal · 70-79, F
Fgtyjhbndfdrgt · 41-45, F
@greenmountaingal i got the cane a few times
greenmountaingal · 70-79, F
@Fgtyjhbndfdrgt Kids can actually handle almost any kind of discipline (as long as it is not outright injurious) if it is consistent so they can know what to expect.
Fgtyjhbndfdrgt · 41-45, F
@greenmountaingal i would ignore everything except a hard spanking
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Winterwanderer · 26-30, M
Possibly, what's your evidence?
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Winterwanderer · 26-30, M
Can you post a link?
sighmeupforthat · 46-50, M
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I've never been a fan of kids taking adhd meds unless it was extreme in its case ...my child has not been formally diagnosed with it but his behaviour therapist thinks he is ...I am not ok with him being on the meds ...I choose to just to do the behaviour therapy thing and trying to work at that at home too ..
It helps that he has an iep as well ..still a work in progress
It helps that he has an iep as well ..still a work in progress
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No almost every kid who takes these pills end up smoking pot or doing other drugs later in life it’s the real gateway drug
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@nedkelly the kids I grew up with who took that shit are now deadbeat junkies I’m not someone who does all my research on the internet my opinions come from real world experience because of that I don’t have the numbers.
@nedkelly the medication is amphetamines
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If they can’t control themselves in class or can’t pay attention, yes.
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SakiSaki · 26-30, M
Family or friends never had that problem
Only if absolutely necessary.