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Can you help me spread awareness that chemo kills you before the cancer does?

Serenitree · F
Yeah. My dad had chemo 43 years ago, and the tumor grew to the size of a football in his chest, in a mere four weeks. And as it grew, it was calcifying. Originally, when they first discovered the cancer, the prognosis was 8 months to a year. He was dead in 8 weeks. I blamed it on the chemo.
Motleycrue667 · 46-50, F
Wow. Sorry to hear that!
Serenitree · F
@Motleycrue667 Thank you. We were too.
rckt148 · 61-69, M
some it has ,some it has saved
My son in law beat cancer last year ,and it was pretty severe
it really depends where it is ,and if the sickness is worth the time it buys
My son in law shows no more signs of cancer
But my best friend threw a clot in his lung before he finished treatment
It really depends on many factors if its worth it or not .
I have a bad back ,,but so do alot of people ,all bad backs are not the same
Unless you have my exact same condition ,,you still don't know what your talking about to compare yours to mine .
with cancer it has a lot to do with type and where it is
PlumBerries · 31-35, F
[c=#7700B2]well it doesnt. It helps fight cancer and sometimes it doesn't work for people. doesn't kill them, that would be the cancer[/c]
Motleycrue667 · 46-50, F
It seems about 50/50. Just going by all the stories and paying attention to situations more closely these last 6 years
Serenitree · F
@PlumBerries I've been asked by doctors if refusing treatment is what I'm willing to risk. My answer is always the same. If I can't heal myself, then I will die. I do take medication for the odd illness, but I've defeated cancer twice with just surgery and will power or luck. One was cervical cancer and the other was just a skin cancer. They removed the lesion and sent me home. I've been fine since. No relapses.
PlumBerries · 31-35, F
@Motleycrue667 [c=#7700B2]I highly doubt it is 50/50, maybe it seems that way to you if you have been out there searching for such cases.. I'm not doubting one bit that chemo could harm people more and doesn't help others at all in certain cases but I don't understand how you could come up with the assumption that chemo kills people just as much as it helps people. that would be like a 50/50 survival rate on chemo and well I just don't believe that at all... again I'm not doubting you on the harms of chemo but I'm talking about the extent of the harm it could potentially do compared to how many people it has saved[/c]
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
There are more than 100 different drugs out there used to treat cancer under the 'chemotherapy' tag.
Having ascertained the 'type' of cancer somebody has, that determines which combination of chemotherapy drugs you get.

https://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatments-and-side-effects/treatment-types/chemotherapy/what-chemo-is-and-how-it-helps/questions-about-chemo.html
SW-User
Life is so uncertain, cant tell what helps or what kills.
Searchingforafriend · 26-30, F
What is the science to back this up? Cause I have done a crap ton of cancer research and have never come across this.
Searchingforafriend · 26-30, F
@Motleycrue667 If you go online and look up just about anything you're going to find whatever you're looking for. Look up why the illuminati is spying on you and I can guarantee you'll find articles on that too. And yes, if you give serious drugs to a healthy person, no matter what they are, they are going to have an adverse affect. But chemo has saved many a person, and the science still backs up using it despite its risks. Cancer is a very serious thing for me- several people in my family have been through chemo and radiation. And have lived and are in remission. So I am pretty sure this is false.
Motleycrue667 · 46-50, F
Yes some people survive it, but a lot don't. Did you read any of the other comments on this post?
Searchingforafriend · 26-30, F
I did. And yes, several people don't. Cancer research is not complete by any stretch of the imagination. There are genetic mutations and whatnot that we still don't understand. But chemo has saved a lot of people too. And the percentage of people it helps is still far greater than those people whose cancer was not combatted by chemo. In the end it is whether or not the chemo can overcome the cancer and in some cases it can't. Still not the chemo that kills.
second2018 · 31-35, F
Where did you get your information
Motleycrue667 · 46-50, F
There's also a science to meth and coke, but common sense should tell you it's not good for you. Chemotherapy is poison. Poison could kill you. A doctor was sent to prison a few years ago for purposely misdiagnosis hundreds of patients with cancer when they didn't even have it. They didn't have anything wrong. He gave then chemo, and a lot of them died.
ViciDraco · 36-40, M
Science is a process of discovery. Of course there is a science to meth and coke. It tells us how to make it and also shows that it is very bad for us. The way you use the word science makes me think you do not understand what it is. Which is dangerous that so many people don't.

Science has demonstrated that for certain kinds of cancer, chemo increases survivability more often than it reduces it. It's not a hundred percent and sometimes things go wrong. But by a significant margin it is usually better for the cancer patient to have it than not have it.

A doctor misdiagnosing people on purpose is a severe crime. Subjecting healthy people to chemo is going to hurt more than it helps. The same way performing CPR on someone who is breathing just fine is going to cause more harm than good. The doctor probably even overdosed the people on chemo. That is the fault of the doctor, not of chemo itself.

Lastly... Poisons are all around us and frequently beneficial when used properly. There are diabetes drugs made from Gila Monster venom. There are heart drugs made from fatally poisonous foxglove. Heck, alcohol and chocolate are both poisons, but having a small amount of them from time to time actually show health benefits.
rckt148 · 61-69, M
@Motleycrue667 Dear there are a lot of ways to tell now days IF you have active cancer in your body and where it is
most of the meds we take are toxic ,,
Lithium for instance is not as commonly used as in the past ,now there are other drugs for psychiatric medication ,but for it to work ,it has to be at an almost lethal dose .
People are dropping dead every day from narcotics ,but they abuse them ,
For us who need them it is the difference in being able to walk ,or spend my life in the bed or on the couch .
Common sense often is not so common sense to often or even good sense anymore
You need to be informed about the drugs and what they offer
Many of us who need medication know ,its "Benefits outweigh the risk "
Most of them are lethal if misused ,,that is why we have to trust the doctors .
so much has changed in cancer in just the last few years .
Now they have ways to target only cancer cells and not wipe out an immune system .but a lot of monkeys ,rats and humans died to get us here
its not a perfect science yet ,,but they are getting there
one bad cop does not make them all bad ,no more then a few bad doctors make them all bad ,,it also helps to do your homework ,,what is their success rate
and how many malpractice suits were filed against them ,and won
SW-User
Hmm funny you should tell that to my mom, pretty sure it was the cancer that killed her.
Motleycrue667 · 46-50, F
When did she start chemo and how long after that did she die? I'm curious
SW-User
@Motleycrue667 year and a half.
Motleycrue667 · 46-50, F
Some people die 30 days after treatment starts. It's being looked into more now days. Sorry about your mom.
Motleycrue667 · 46-50, F
I lost someone to cancer too, but it was a colapsed lung. I started doing more research on chemo. This was about 6 years ago. Just to let everyone know
SW-User
It's quickly changing, they are coming a bit back from chemo and the doses decrease drastically nowadays.
lorne13 · 61-69, M
Motleycrue667 · 46-50, F
You believe people die first of the cancer and not the "treatment"??
lorne13 · 61-69, M
@Motleycrue667 2 people i know had chemo and they're doing well
Motleycrue667 · 46-50, F
That's good. In some people's cases they aren't so lucky. Depends on how the person''s immune system is
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
Really? Who said that?

 
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