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How long after Israel became a nation in 1948 will it be until Jesus return? Many Bible scholars believe 80 years. [Spirituality & Religion]

[b]Psalm 90:10 10Our days may come to seventy years, or eighty, if our strength endures; yet the best of them are but trouble and sorrow, for they quickly pass, and we fly away[/b].
Iwillwait · M
It is clearly stated by Jesus'words, that the time will not be known to man when his return is. Bible scholar or not, there's no known date or year. It could be Today, Tomorrow or The Next day, Next year, 20 years. You do not know, They most certainly do NOT know.
Carazaa · F
@Iwillwait[b] The Day of the Lord
…3While people are saying, “Peace and security,” destruction will come upon them suddenly, like labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. 4But you, brothers, are not in the darkness so that this day should overtake you like a thief. 5For you are all sons of the light and sons of the day; we do not belong to the night or to the darkness.1 Thess 5:4…[/b]
Carazaa · F
@Iwillwait I do not know what day he is coming! But I know he is coming soon!

29 "“Immediately after the distress of those days

“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’

30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it[e] is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

The Day and Hour Unknown
36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

42 [b]“Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time[/b],’ 49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
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Grendale · 36-40, M
How long was he gone before he came back resurrected on easter? Does he have a pattern? How do they come to know about the time line of his return?
Grendale · 36-40, M
@Carazaa

2 Corinthians 11:14
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No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
Carazaa · F
@Grendale Have a nice day!🙂
Grendale · 36-40, M
@Carazaa Say hello to the devil for me, when he takes control of your mouth again. Let him know I can see him deceiving people. Thankfully he is clumsy and lacks substance. Its easy to spot puppets of his evil, like you. I hope Satan stop's being your Daddy, one day.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Since I don't have a Bible I cannot examine the context of that quote, but it reads as a poetical reference to human life-span.

Certainly not a supposed estimate made well over 2000 years before 20C international politics annexed part of Palestine - without the residents' permission - and called it "Israel".

"many... " and "believe"...

You can pose that question from any historical event you like - the conversion of the Romans? the Reformation? the invention of the USA? the Russian Revolution and coup - but it would still be entirely abstract even if you believe in Jesus.

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There is a Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives to concur with a belief that it will be the spot of the supposed Second Coming, so its "residents" will form the first of the judgement queue. I have no idea how anyone imagines such things, but I do wonder at the criteria for being buried there, apart from overweening ego and forlorn optimism as shown by one buried there at his own wish, the late and very [i]un[/i]-lamented newspaper-owner, Robert Maxwell!
Carazaa · F
@ArishMell The Bible is Gods word. You can read it online and find out for yourself what God is saying to humanity. Every word is important. I have read it everyday for over 40 years! I know God. He is coming back within 10 years.
Frank52 · 70-79, M
@ArishMell [quote]There is a Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives to concur with a belief that it will be the spot of the supposed Second Coming, so its "residents" will form the first of the judgement queue.[/quote]

Since the Jewish faith does not accept Jesus as the Messiah and therefore certainly doesn't believe in a 'Second Coming' I'm afraid this part of your comment is based on a misunderstanding.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Frank52 Thank you. It could be, but a misunderstanding I obtained from a book serialised on the radio, about Robert Maxwell. It was his last wish to be buried in that cemetery, and for that reason given - although this was a footnote largely incidental to the biography itself. Possibly , I misinterpreted the nature of the cemetery by its location - but Maxwell was of Jewish descent, though not by habit, perhaps as a legacy of his wartime experience.
usher · 41-45, F
If we knew that then it wouldn't be a surprise as Jesus said. So scholars are definitely wrong if they are true scholars.
usher · 41-45, F
@Carazaa yes, but the time and date are not possible to predict really. Yes some will be prepared and some not, but as i say , it could be in the year 3000 or 30,000 for all we know.
Carazaa · F
@usher It will be very soon in our generation.
Carazaa · F
@usher https://similarworlds.com/19-Spirituality-Religion/3715551-The-Signs-of-Jesus-return-to-judge-the-living-and
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
He will reappear when the Messenger Trump and Prophet Bibi decree it.
Graylight · 51-55, F
With respect, Bible "scholars" aren't sitting around trying to decipher when Israel will become a nation and Jesus will return.
Carazaa · F
@Carazaa https://similarworlds.com/19-Spirituality-Religion/3715551-The-Signs-of-Jesus-return-to-judge-the-living-and
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Carazaa There are spiritual 'scholars' who, I suppose, study the words contained within the Bible for prophecy and guidance. More academic scholars research other aspects of the Bible and Jesus from a more secular and scientific angle. Different methods for different reasons.
Carazaa · F
@Graylight Most who love Jesus study the Bible their entire lives!
I have a big question. But I don't have anything against any religion.
@Carazaa I really appreciate that you pray for me. I respect your believes too. 🤗 I have sent you a message ☺️ do tell me how are you?
Carazaa · F
@littlepuppywantanewlife Thank you! I will read it!🤗
@Carazaa 🤗
Grendale · 36-40, M
God has told me that not all of humanity is going to perish. My role in his service is to survive. A good many will leave this plane of existence, for better or for worse considering their eternal souls. I dont know why or how or any of the details, but he told me that my purpose is raising family and enduring what is to come, so that my children and my children's children will carry the torch of humanity.
Carazaa · F
@Grendale The Bible is Gods words. They are trustworthy. This is how I know The Bible is true.

https://similarworlds.com/19-Spirituality-Religion/3712638-How-I-know-The-Bible-is-true-and-Jesus-is-Gods-Son
Grendale · 36-40, M
@Carazaa uh huh... go back to your soapbox. Satan is not done making you his puppet.
Spica · 31-35, F
Lol so we only have 7 years ha
Carazaa · F
@Spica Many believe we will be raptured before Jesus comes if we love him.
Frank52 · 70-79, M
Only certain kinds of 'Bible scholars'. Others, who read the original languages, take the texts in context and understand their literary style as part of their inspired nature. Reading it literally in a 21st century context perhaps misses the point.
The Neturei Karta, a Haredi sect, believe that Israel cannot be established as a nation until the Messiah comes. Since that hasn’t happened yet, according to them, the current state of Israel is an impostor.
Carazaa · F
@LeopoldBloom Who died for their sins?
Grendale · 36-40, M
Do you think Jesus would have a podcast? How would he spread his message today?

 
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