Do you know that many Bible scholars believe that the 7 year" Great Tribulation" might start this year 2021, and the rapture could happen any time? [Spirituality & Religion]

@HannibalAteMeOut I am not belonging to any at the time. I go to Baptist, Presbyterian, and non denominational churches. None of the pastors believe that Jesus is coming soon. I am just searching the scriptures and reading Bible myself, and reading and watching Sermons online. Many serious Bible scholars of evangelical nature like Derrik Walker hwo has done hundreds of Bible timeline videos, and got a Math MS degree from Oxford University has been studying Bible timeline his whole life. And many more. Here is a summary from another Bible scholar yesterday.


The Book of Daniel, unsealed. Why we might see him 2028 or sooner, maybe even 2023? Or be raptured 2021?
Book of Daniel

[b]" The words are sealed until the end, 1290 days. Many will be "purified" but none of the wicked will understand.
And blessed is he who waits and comes to the 1335 more days." Daniel 12:12[/b]

So what did God say would be disclosed near the end of time in Daniel 12:9-11? Lets figure it out! What do you think it means? And what is at the end?

In John 2:22 It says that anyone denying Christ is antichrist."

In Daniel 8 It says for 2300 days the sanctuary will be cleansed and trampled under foot.

The abomination that causes desolation spoken in the Book of Daniel 680 BC and again mentioned in the New Testament in Mark and Matthew and The book of Revelation,

"So Let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, when you see the abomination that makes desolate."

Islam denies Christ as Gods Son and built a dome of the Rock in Jerusalem in 688 AD.

In Rev 11, It says the woman will flee to the wilderness 1260 days ( if we apply this to years) The Jews were scattered.

In 333 BC Alexander the great conquered the persian Empire. 333 AD Plus 2300 =1967 peace treaty
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688 AD Dome of the Rock was built on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem

688 + 1290= 1978 A peace treaty (UNIFIL)

688 + 1260 = 1948 Israel became a nation

688 + 1335 Daniel 12:12 = 2023 AD
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Carazaa

@Harriet03 "[b]All have sinned and come short of Gods Glory"[/b]

@HannibalAteMeOut so basically Evangelical Protestant. That would explain a lot.

@Lila15 I am currently not attending a church nor a member in any church. I read my Bible. Jesus did create the heavens, and the earth, all creatures, and the Bible too!

John 1

[b]"1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
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14 [b]And the Word was made flesh,[/b] and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

@Lila15 Take care!🤗

@Lila15 Please make sure that you read your Bible for yourself cover to cover and don't follow any particular pastor, pope, church doctrine. It is important. Take care!🙏

@MiserableAtBest They were all wrong. Jesus IS coming in our generation, probably before 2028, and the rapture before that! And the great tribulation before he comes.

@Carazaa
I’ll see you in 2029, where everything will be as it has always been

@MiserableAtBest Maybe, maybe not!

@1stexhub That is not what it says at all. Tt says [b]"That day will NOT overcome you like a thief" [/b]if we are looking for him. And who is setting a date. not me. We ARE to know the season! The book of Daniel tells us that the time is sealed to the end. We are at the end.

@helensusanswift I don't know but I am prepared!

@helensusanswift 💞🙏

@DeluxedEdition It is true that each day brings us closer the last day.

@Carazaa God will provide for his children always!!!!!! The fowls of the air reap and sow not but the Heavenly Father feeds them!

@DeluxedEdition Absolutely! I believe that too.

@NickiHijab Did you watch the video I sent to Piecingmebacktogether?

@Carazaa You didn't send any videos 😯 I'm not here to argue anyway and HijabaDabaaDoo is my friend we're just discussing things.

@PiecingBabyFaceTogether @NickiHijab [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ontVGKS_HjA]

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Ofcourse there are churches that have changes or added to the Bible. I am not talking bout those. I am talking about the Christian Bible.

@Carazaa 🤦‍♂️ They are literally the same thing. There is no such thing as a agreed upon or standard bible.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow The catholic Bible and the Christian Bible are not the same because Catholicism is apostate. But The KJB and NIV say the same thing as 600 other versions. My Swedish Bible got its origin not from King James and it says the same thing as King James Bible proving God's word is God breathed.

@Carazaa That's interesting.

@usher he Signs of Jesus return! We know he will come this generation. Edit
What are some signs of Jesus return? The book of Genesis, Matthew, Daniel, Ezekiel, Revelation there are signs for us to pay attention to.

1. "Knowledge would increase" For 6000 years knowledge had slowly increased until 1945. In 1958 it had doubled, then doubled again 1960, And then it doubled every 2 years, and now it doubles every 12 minutes. NO other generatation has doubled their knowledge.

It is in the 33rd verse in Matthew 24 Jesus tells us
Matthew 24:33

“So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.”


2. "Going back and forth" would increase. A hundred years ago people travelled by horse and stayed in one place. Traveling to the USA took months by boat. Now people drive and fly everywhere. No other generation have they done this as much. No other generations.

3. The Jews would get their land back the last generation. There was no Israel for 2000 years until 1948 "And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. 32Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its branches become tender and sprout leaves, you know that summer is near. So also, when you see all these things, you will know that He is near, right at the door ". And in Psalms 90:10 10Our days may come to seventy years, or eighty, if our strength endures; yet the best of them are but trouble and sorrow, for they quickly pass, and we fly away.
1948 + 80 = 2028 ( But the great tribulation might start 7 years before.

4.
In the Book of Daniel God says the words are sealed until the end 1290 days . Many will be" purified" but none of the wicked will understand.
And blessed is he who waits and comes to the 1335 more days. Daniel 12:12

So what did God say would be disclosed near the end of time in Daniel 12:9-11? Lets figure it out! What do you think it means? And what is at the end?

In John 2:22 It says that anyone denying Christ is antichrist."

In Daniel 8 It says for 2300 days the sanctuary will be cleansed and trampled under foot.

The abomination that causes desolation spoken in the Book of Daniel 680 BC and again mentioned in the New Testament in Mark and Matthew and The book of Revelation,

"So Let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, when you see the abomination that makes desolate."

Islam denies Christ as Gods Son and built a dome of the Rock in Jerusalem in 688.

In Rev 11, It says the woman will flee to the wilderness 1260 days ( if we apply this to years) The Jews were scattered.

In AD 333 Alexander the great conquered Conquered the persian Empire. Plus 2300 =1967 peace treaty

688 + 1290= 1978 A peace treaty (UNIFIL)

1260 + 688 = 1948 Israel became a nation

688 Dome was buit + 1335 Daniel 12:12 = 2023 AD



5. There will be increased pestilences, terrors, greate earthquakes, falling away from the faith, false pastors, and cold hearts. No time in history have christian countries fallen away from believing in Jesus like now. No other generations has seen ALL these at the same time ALL over the world.



6. He said that he would come back when the entire world has heard the gospel, every country, people group, and tribe. Only in our generation has the gospel gone out via radio, and internet, and TV to the entire world at the same time. This has never happened before except for this generation.

7. God said that "Don't be ignorant about this, a thousand years is like a day to God. And if we count the generations from Adam and Eve we are to the end 6000 year now. And God said that the 7th day is the day of rest.
First 2000- Age of Gentiles; Adam to Abraham
Second 2000- Age of Israel; Abraham- The Cross
Third 2000- Age of the Church; Cross- Tribulation
1000 years- Age of the Lord;- Revelation 20

No generation has gone into the 7th day until this generation. Also it might be that God started the time for us to calculate the the 7th day from when Adam and Eve sinned and were banned from the Garden of Eden. When was this, we don't know exactly. But they were probably created in their early twenties, and Adam was given a task to name the animals which we don't know how long that took but probably not long since they didn't conceive and they sinned and was shown out of Eden. Probably around age 25 they had to leave before they conceived. So when do we start the time table to the end, on day 6 when they were created or when they sinned and started their lives outside of the garden? Since Jesus was probably 33 when he died, Adam was probably around 33 when he died spiritually.



8. The Bible says is many places that Jesus would rise on the 3rd day. He was in the earth 3 days and nights. (Friday day and night) Saturday day and night) (Sunday night and morning) And a thousand years is like a day to God. Its been 2 days, 2000 years and we are going into the 3rd day in a few years. The third day, Sunday, only lasted a few minutes since he rose very early. So it will be early after 2000 years. Most believe he died year year 33. Many believe that Jesus will come and rapture us before the great tribulation, it might be before the last 7 years before he returns.

(Mark 8:31; Matthew 27:63). Other verses say "in three days" (Matthew 26:61, 27:40, John 2:19 - 20, Mark 14:58, 15:29).


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(Mark 9:31, 10:34, Matthew 16:21, 17:23, 20:19, 27:64, Luke 9:22, 18:33, 24:7, 21, 46, Acts 10:40, 1Corinthians 15:4). No other generation has entered the 3rd. day. No one knows the day or the hour, but we do know that we are most likely the last generation.

When God repeats things 2 or 3 times we need to pay attention. Each day is counted regardless on the time in each day. Friday, Saturday, he rose on Sunday morning. So what about the nights? He died 3pm (15:00) on April 3, year 33 and rose morning at sunrise 6:30 am (6:00) And God says 3 times to us that a thousand years is like a day to God.

Friday Day died 3am - 6 am (15:00-18:00)
Friday Night 6pm -12 pm (18:00-24:00)
Saturday Day 6am- 6pm (6:00-18:00)
Saturday Night 6pm- 12am (18:00-24:00)
Sunday night 12am-6am (12:00-6:00)
Sunday Day rose 6am-7am (6:00- 7:00)

Jesus gave us some hints when he would rise the second time. So a thousand years is like a day to God. How is this correlating to the last 2000 years since Jesus died. He said he would rise on the third day. Its been almost 2000 years since he died. And we are going into the "3rd day" now.


10. "There will be scoffers in the last days." People did not mock the Bible for 6000 years until this generation. Jesus said in the last generation people would be scoffing the Bible, the flood, and Jesus coming back. No other generations have fallen away and mocked like this generation.

"Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation? 5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.



11. Here are 2 videos. One of the prophesy of Daniel that predicts that the Great tribulation might start 2021 and end 2028 with Jesus return. And a video about the timeline of the Bible.






But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.[a]

Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. 13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.

So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory!
Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” 5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and
destruction of the ungodly." 2 Peter 3
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@Carazaa @REMsleep

@Carazaa That has been over whelming for me. I can't understand most of it. I can understand what it says but the meanings are something I can't comprehend and my intuition is not to know when Jesus is coming but rather to obey his teachings. One of the last things Jesus said is "Love one another", and that is what is important to me. It's even more important to me than what the whole bible says. Analysing the bible is something I will never do as part of my creed. I listen to God through the consciousness of God who is nature and the Universe. I'm prepared for the next world no matter when it comes. In the meantime I will proceed to obey God's(Jesus) teaching and I won't preach anything unless I'm asked. That's me and my creed

@Straylight No one knows the day or the hour, but we are getting close to the end and Jesus said in the end times The Book of Daniel will be unsealed.

@Carazaa Ah, I forgot there would be signs.

@Straylight 1. The sign, AND 2. birth pangs, And 3. the Book of Daniel unsealed!

@Tastyfrzz Ash or worm food.

@Harriet03 Very relevant,👍

@Tastyfrzz Well Something happened in my heart when I was about 7 and I saw God as Holy and myself as sinful, and fell on my knees and cried I am so sorry that I was so proudful and arrogant. And I've been different ever since. And loving to read his word and looking for Jesus return and happy to be in heaven one day. I really have a good life but it will be a heavenly place to be in heaven. No pain, no animal abuse, no child abuse, no diseases, no tears. The Book of Daniel has been unsealed. and the timeline revealed.

@SW-User Well Jesus explains it in the Bible, that we who love him will anxiously look for his coming, and that day will [i]not[/i] come like a thief to us. Encourage each other with these words he says.

@froggtongue most religious predictions don’t happen. For example the rapture, England being underwater by the early 2000s for our evil greedy behaviour.

@froggtongue

@Persephonee I don't know how many but I can post some videos her for you.

@Carazaa are you going to put them in comments or edit the post?

@Persephonee Derek Walker MS Math cholar from Oxford believe we will see Jesus soon in our generation. I posted a few videos on my featured post on Bible timeline.

@Classified probable!

@Classified If you look at my post on we are the last generation, there are some videos there.

@Carazaa Thanks, but I'm gonna pass.

@KuroNeko Yes you could be right.

@SW-User How can Jeebus not know if he is part of the trinity? Doesn't God trust him with that knowledge?

@Entwistle No idea. I guess the end of the world is so momentous that only one aspect of the Trinity can know when it happens. Of course during the Christology debates of early Christianity, this verse (Mark 13:32) was used as evidence against the Trinity.

@DeluxedEdition 🙏💞

@Carazaa i know they'll be saying the same thing 100 years later because they said the same thing 100 years ago at the beginning of WW1.

i was raised Christian too but all this talk about raptures just make us all look like lunatics especially the ones who take it too far.

@bugeye 2:Peter 3
[b]The Coming Judgment
…3Most importantly, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4“Where is the promise of His coming?” they will ask. “ Ever since our fathers fell asleep, everything continues as it has from the beginning of creation.” 5But they deliberately overlook the fact that long ago by God’s word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water,…[/b]

@Carazaa yep just like this. 🙄

@anxietyme I am not setting a date but the Book of Daniel has been unsealed. God said it would in the last days and we are in the last days.

@faseny That is true but before that is the tribulation and some believe it starts this year so just love Jesus and you will be ok.

@SW-User There are 2 kinds of people. Those who are saved, and believe in Jesus as Gods Son. He died for the worlds sins and rose from the grave and is coming again to take us to heaven, or to punish the world for their sins. And those who don't believe that. He is coming back very soon. Some believe before 2028.

@Zonuss It will be soon. The Sun only has about 7 or 8 Billion years left so we better start packing.

@Zonuss Well I want to see Jesus but I know people who aren't saved like someones name starting with a P and another starting with an S, H, N, B, K, heck A B C D E F G H I L M N O P Q R S T U V X YZ 😪

@Eclipsed

What thing?? But this is interesting
[b]
Book of Daniel

" The words are sealed until the end, 1290 days. Many will be "purified" but none of the wicked will understand.
And blessed is he who waits and comes to the 1335 more days." Daniel 12:12
[/b]
So what did God say would be disclosed near the end of time in Daniel 12:9-11? Lets figure it out! What do you think it means? And what is at the end?

In John 2:22 It says that anyone denying Christ is antichrist."

In Daniel 8 It says for 2300 days the sanctuary will be cleansed and trampled under foot.

The abomination that causes desolation spoken in the Book of Daniel 680 BC and again mentioned in the New Testament in Mark and Matthew and The book of Revelation,

"So Let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, when you see the abomination that makes desolate."

Islam denies Christ as Gods Son and built a dome of the Rock in Jerusalem in 688 AD.

In Rev 11, It says the woman will flee to the wilderness 1260 days ( if we apply this to years) The Jews were scattered.

In 333 BC Alexander the great conquered the persian Empire. 333 AD Plus 2300 =1967 peace treaty
[b]
688 AD Dome of the Rock was built on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem

688 + 1290= 1978 A peace treaty (UNIFIL)

688 + 1260 = 1948 Israel became a nation

688 + 1335 Daniel 12:12 = 2023 AD[/b]

Carazaa @Eclipsed

@faseny We are in the end times and Jesus is coming.

But Allah too @Carazaa

@SirBenedictTheSecond [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ontVGKS_HjA]

@Carazaa Oh no

@REMsleep [quote]many false Biblical predictions.[/quote]
Many old works of fiction, especially science fiction, have referred to future events that have come true. The bible is no different in that respect. A specific prediction, such as "you will win £12 000 350.55 on next week's UK lottery", coming true would strongly suggest considerable predictive powers. The vague, often metaphorical, open ended, predictions in the bible don't prove anything. Sooner or later, some event will occur that can be matched to an interpretion of one (or more) of the biblical predictions, it's just a matter of time. Until such time one can simply claim it's "yet to be fulfilled".

[quote]You'd have to take it up with God himself[/quote]
I would if there were any evidence it existed. I tried to contact it when I was much younger but never got a reply. Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy never let me down though.

@Sharon Whats the point in discussion if you want to resort to being rude making snide jokes about God being equal to The Tooth Fairy?
I try very hard to keep my responses non insulting because my goal here is honest conversation which can lead to greater understanding no matter our positions.

@REMsleep [quote]being rude making snide jokes about God being equal to The Tooth Fairy?[/quote]
Pointing out a simple fact is neither being rude nor making snide comments. From a purely impartial point of view, what [b]objective[/b] difference is there between the Tooth Fairy, the christian god, or any other deity or mythical being?

I'm not a hypocrite who applies double standards. I apply the same standard to all mythical beings. Absent any evidence to the contrary, that's really all gods are.

Various christians here have claimed that their prayers have been answered by their god. Members of other religions have told of their prayers being answered by their gods. In many such cases, the answer came in the form of another person performing some service that was prayed for. They then usually claim that their god directed that other person.

In the same way, children ask Santa Claus for for a particular present. When they receive that present, it obvious to them that Santa has answered their prayers. Those of us who do not beleive in Santa will point out the present came from the child's parents. Those of us with faith in Santa can claim that the spirit of Santa directed the parents to provide that present. How does that really differ from the way christians' claim their god answers prayers?

@Nanori Where the people who believe in Jesus as Gods Son, crucified for our sins, and risen will snatch us up to heaven, and spare us the worst that is coming unto the whole world.

@SW-User But are you watching for Jesus like he says?

@Carazaa I am certainly doing my best. I am far from perfect though

@SW-User We can not earn heaven. Jesus died for the world because we are sinners. If we love him he forgives all our sins and answers our prayers.

@REMsleep of course all religions are not equal as they all have different ideas

@pianoplayingsteve My own husband thinks that all religions are equal. I always tell him that he married me under false pretenses 😆

@REMsleep
The Coming Day of the Lord

3Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, 4and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation.” 5For when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water, 6through which the world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water. 7But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

8But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day. 9The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.

@pianoplayingsteve Yes The first time by flood second by fire. The Book of Daniel has been unsealed! Praise God!🙏

@Carazaa nah sorry you just claimed I haven't read my bible and just copy some pastor. I do not believe in the same loving god worshipped by someone who acts like that towards me, especially when I was correct about the biblical passage.

@pianoplayingsteve No it does not. You've been listening to some pastor read the Bible for yourself.

@Carazaa revelation 18:22 'and trumpeters, will never be heard in you again. No worker of any trade will ever be found in you again. The sound of a millstone will never be heard in you again.'
22 'The light of a lamp will never shine in you again. The voice of bridegroom and bride will never be heard in you again. Your merchants were the world's important people. By your magic spell all the nations were led astray.'
I'd recommend also looking it up in the original Greek to see the root word for the term 'magic spell'. :)

@pianoplayingsteve That's why I asked you to present your evidence.

But a question for you, what hypothesis do you have for the increased deaths over the last year or so?

@Entwistle When Jesus, God in the flesh was here, he was fully God but he was limited by his body, he had the same temptations as we do but he didn't sin. It is a mystery what he knew when he came in the flesh. We can't understand it.

@Carazaa [quote]We can't understand it.[/quote]
Just make something up then. That's what religious zealots usually do.

@Sharon Hide seek champion, extrodinaire!

@Sharon No they have not. My Grandma told me that I would see Jesus return not her, she knew the Bible and the Book of Daniel had not been unsealed nor any of the end time signs except Israels 1948. . The Book of Daniel has been unsealed. It could not have happened before 1948!

@Carazaa Yeah right. You'll see the Porcine Aerobatic Display first.