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If God is real and created the Earth then young earthers are wrong to deny the evidence of what the creation shows: an ancient Earth. [Spirituality & Religion]

[quote]Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse
Romans 1:19-20[/quote]


If the God's hand in creation is indeed self-evident then it IS self-evident. It is not deceptive, it is not subtle, it cannot be mistaken otherwise people would indeed have an excuse.
So if the earth [i]appears [/i]to be ancient, if life [i]appears [/i]to have evolved then it [i]did[/i]. Because the creation of the world is [i]clearly[/i] seen so that there is no excuse.

Therefore young earthers need to accept that what is clearly seen is an old earth and evolution.
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GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
You don't know how to interpret God's Word do you, Pikachu. The earth is no where's near to be billions of years old and evolution never happened.
@GodSpeed63

If the God's hand in creation is indeed self-evident then it IS self-evident. It is not deceptive, it is not subtle, it cannot be mistaken otherwise people would indeed have an excuse.
So if the earth [i]appears [/i]to be ancient, if life [i]appears [/i]to have evolved then it [i]did[/i]. Because the creation of the world is [i]clearly[/i] seen so that there is no excuse.

Therefore young earthers need to accept that what is clearly seen is an old earth and evolution.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]people would indeed have an excuse.[/quote]

Obviously math and science were not your subjects and you are without excuse.
@GodSpeed63

No sir. [i]You[/i] are without excuse because you deny what God has made plain in his creation. The earth is shown to be old by many overlapping fields of study all converging on the same conclusion.
Same again for evolution.
If you you deny that God has made his creation plain then you are calling the word of God a lie.

God didn't make the earth appear old to trick you. It looks old because it is old.
Simple as that.
You are without excuse.
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 Well then, expand on your answer and explain what aspects of God's word @Pikachu misinterpreted. That's not too much to ask, is it?
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu @Bushranger [quote]No sir. You are without excuse because you deny what God has made plain in his creation.[/quote]

It's plain to see that you're not looking for the Truth, Pikachu and Bushranger, but looking to be right instead.
@GodSpeed63

Won't wash. It's plain to see that you are not interested in exposing yourself to the truth, only clinging to your dogma.

If God created the world in such a way that his creation is self evident then his creation would be exactly what it appears to be: An OLD earth and EVOLUTION.

You are without excuse.
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 Which is why I asked you to expand on your response? Seriously, if you want to spread your truth, do it by providing more than just one word answers or scriptual quotes. Give us your interpretation, your views on the matter. Provide us with enough evidence and we will accept your truth. But so far, all you've done is act like a school boy.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu @Bushranger [quote]Wont wash.[/quote]

Will wash. You are trying to push the lie of evolution to be the truth God. Not going to happen.
@GodSpeed63

[quote] Not going to happen.
[/quote]

It's already happened and you stand without excuse. If God's creation can be clearly seen so that all are without excuse then what that creation clearly shows must be what it truly is.
And all of creation shows an old earth and evolution.

It is blasphemy to cling to interpretations made by men of the bible in DIRECT OPPOSITION to what God has made clear in his creation.

You stand without excuse.
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 just looked back on my posts in this thread. I've been pushing you to present you case in a more articulate and personal manner.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]It's already happened[/quote]

Prove it.
@GodSpeed63

[quote]Prove it.[/quote]

The proof is all around you in God's creation and the manner of the creation is clearly seen so that everyone is without excuse.
Multiple independent lines of investigation all reveal the same clear nature of creation: an old earth and evolution.

To deny that and cling to a man-made and therefor fallible interpretation of God's word is blasphemy.

You are without excuse.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]The proof is all around you in God's creation[/quote]

For your sake, I hope you do believe it's God's creation.
@GodSpeed63

lol of course i don't. But you do and therefore you have no excuse to deny the evidence that god made clear in his creation.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]of course i don't.[/quote]

Then why are you getting so uptight over it?
@GodSpeed63

lol i like to debate, it's you who actually get's uptight about it while i have fun.
Like now when you've abandoned the subject of the debate you were losing in order to talk about me😁
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]i like to debate, it's you who actually get's uptight about it while i have fun.[/quote]

Looks like the other way around to me.
@GodSpeed63

lol no it doesn't because if you were having fun like me you would have kept pressing the debate like i did instead of retreating into personal comments.

But prove me wrong, take up the debate again😁

The fact is that if god created then his creation speaks for itself and what it shows is an ancient earth and evolution of the species.
These are conclusions reached from various independent fields of research from around the world all converging on the same answers over and over and over again. The same fields that billion dollar industries rely upon to be accurate in order to make money. The same fields that can tell look at your DNA and tell you that you are your father's biological daughter. The same fields
And the only people who deny them are people like who aren't paying attention to what is plain to see.

Come along, let's have fun together😃
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]no it doesn't[/quote]

Whatever. 🙄
@GodSpeed63

[quote]Whatever. 🙄[/quote]

Hee hee hee!🤭 Spoken like someone who's really [i]enjoying [/i]themselves...😏
If you don't want to play then you may be excused.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]Spoken like someone who's really enjoying themselves.[/quote]

Yeah, I am enjoying myself.
@GodSpeed63

lol ok, i'll take your word for it and let you respond to the topic of debate again.

The fact is that if god created then his creation speaks for itself and what it shows is an ancient earth and evolution of the species.
These are conclusions reached from various independent fields of research from around the world all converging on the same answers over and over and over again. The same fields that billion dollar industries rely upon to be accurate in order to make money. The same fields that can tell look at your DNA and tell you that you are your father's biological daughter. The same fields
And the only people who deny them are people like who aren't paying attention to what is plain to see.

Come along, let's have fun together😃
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]The fact is that if god created then his creation speaks for itself and what it shows is an ancient earth and evolution of the species.[/quote]

The facts don't show that. They show God's creation and no evolution ever happened.
@GodSpeed63

lol ok then put your money where your mouth is: Show me a fact from the world around us which shows that evolution never happened.

This should be fun
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@Pikachu And will never happen.