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What are the benefits of being atheist? [Spirituality & Religion]

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Pro: Full freedom of morality and meaning of life until death 🤷🏾‍♂️

Con: A pointless experience and if one meets God and God exists against all that they pretended and told themselves, may God have mercy on them because this is way worse than ever being wrong about God existing and living a good life
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@Emosaur yes ._.
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@Emosaur since it's hard for you to understand me, I'll tell you my opinion straight up:

If you have been Created and have a purpose laid out for you, you have to find it or at least seek it or else, yes, you would be doing something wrong .-.

If your life has a purpose and you're not fulfilling it, you've wasted your life

If there's something you want to tell me, SAY IT
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@Emosaur pointless as in you missed the mark. Not as in your existence makes no sense btw :v
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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Emosaur Your faith says your grandpappy was a stone. Prove me wrong.
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@Emosaur if you could be a gentleman and present an actual idea instead of riding off of mine, that would help me understand your point unless you don't have one ._.

If in fact it is the case that you don't have an idea you want to express, we cannot exchange any views and help each other construct. Your only intention would be to try to destroy which is meaningless since it doesn't change the reality of things :v

My main point:

If you just live and die and nothing created this world and we got no purpose, we live a meaningless life. Atheism accepts that, right?

If you were created and have a purpose but did not spend the time to seek it and/or find it, then you are wrong for that, right?

I don't see the problem. If we were created, our existence's meaning would be defined by our creator. Else if this really is all one big accident, we literally would live a pointless existence
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@hippyjoe1955 lolol 😂
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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Emosaur


Look I found your grandpappy!!
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SW-User
@Emosaur [quote]If you just live and die and nothing created this world and we got no purpose, we live a meaningless life. Atheism accepts that, right?[/quote]
[quote]Wrong. You might as well ask "If there's no master whose slave will I be?"[/quote]
You just made a strawman argument.... You're putting words in my mouth and assume that it is my idea there always has to be a master, hence asking when there is no master, you create one.... right?

That's wrong

[quote] If you were created and have a purpose but did not spend the time to seek it and/or find it, then you are wrong for that, right?[/quote]
[quote]Wrong again. If a god like yours exists and his "purpose" for us is to worship him or else be sent to hell, it just means that he's a narcissistic prick.[/quote]
How on Earth does this answer the question? Your response is calling God a narcissist as an explanation for why it is RIGHT for someone to spend their life not being conscious of and seeking and/or finding their purpose 😂
What kinda logic is this? What question are you answering?

[quote]Or maybe we'll just find our own purpose in our passions [/quote]
Thanks for sugar coating "I would make up my purpose knowing very well that I have absolutely no purpose"
You can't MAKE the purpose of your existence 😂
You either HAVE one or you DON'T. That's like saying you find the purpose of why cars are a thing. The guy who invented them made them for a purpose. I can use my car to do stunts and tricks but that doesn't make the PURPOSE of my car change

Also, that last part [quote]and what we love to do[/quote] indicates you'll just end up following your desires. What's the reason you got an issue with someone following what God wants?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@SW-User Atheists are absolutely stupid when you really think about it.

If there is no god a Christian loses nothing by living a Christian life.
If there is a God then an atheist loses everything by dying an atheist death.
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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Emosaur You have no idea what worship is or what was demanded. Too funny. that you don't know is explained by the fact you think your grandpappy was a stone.
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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Emosaur Only someone stupid enough to think their ancestor was a stone would take that bet. Nothing to lose and everything to gain. Vs nothing to gain and everything to lose. What moron would bet the wrong way on that one? Someone who thinks his grandpappy was a rock!!!
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@Emosaur [quote]If your god doesn't like the way we use it our free will is essentially worthless.[/quote]
There is no conflict.

This is a logical fallacy and you just injected your morality in this situation. Firstly, you say it is worthless if God doesn't like how we use our free will. Why? Free will is not static... you KNOW this.

I'll use your logic.
Think of this:

[i]If[/i] it is [u]worthless when[/u] it is [u]misused[/u]....
[i]Then[/i] [u]if it is NOT misused[/u], [u]it is NOT worthless[/u].... BOTH of which can happen. Proof by contrapositive works here, doesn't it? Thanks to your reasoning :D

This proves that it is never completely worthless because it HAS worth if it is not misused. Who picks and chooses whether or not it is misused or not misused? YOU! ME! EVERYONE AS AN INDIVIDUAL! Hence, it is not the fault of God if it is misused .-.
Rather ours. You can't translate that responsibility to God somehow and blame God for the misuse of free will because you want it to be impossible for free will to be misused ._.
How can this ever cause a conflict because we've been given free will? :V
How does it mean we've never been given free will? What God would define as right and wrong does NOT mean we cannot choose. That's the whole point of free will yo

[quote]Strongly disagree. You can absolutely choose your purpose, your reason to live[/quote]
What you want to do and end up choosing to do with your life is VERY different from the purpose of your life 🤔
Please understand, the man who invented cars invented cars with the [b][u]purpose[/u][/b] of transportation. A stunt driver did not change the [b][u]purpose[/u][/b] of the cars he uses for stunts. A stunt driver still uses the transportation! They cannot affect the PURPOSE of the car but can pick and choose WHAT they use it for. Another person, let's say a car collector, can select not even transporting at all. He may just buy a car just to have it sit somewhere and [b]never transport anything[/b]. Might I ask you, which of these two hypothetical persons has changed the purpose of why cars exist in the first place? (The two hypothetical persons being the stunt driver using cars for stunts and man who collects cars and never uses them)
This is a real world situation, too :v
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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Emosaur your thinking has all the depths of a parking lot puddle. I bet you believe your grandpappy was a rock.
@Emosaur

[quote]If someone holds a gun to your head and tells you to do what they want you to do, you're not free. Simple.[/quote]

I have to agree there.
That's called a threat or at best coercion, not freedom.