A True Scientist [Spirituality & Religion]

@CopperCicada Buddhism is barely even a religion though. Like, it is, but the actual supernatural beliefs of Buddhism are hardly there. There's next to no mythology, unlike, say, Hinduism. And outside of the Mahayana sect, there really isn't a higher power of any kind, especially the traditional Theravota. It's more like a philosophy to be honest.

@CopperCicada @BlueMetalChick A lot of Christians believe if one word of the Bible is wrong then the entire thing is worthless. That idea makes Fundamentalists do and say bizarre things

@CookieLuvsBunny That makes one a materialist. @BlueMetalChick

@LeopoldBloom Which is why I phrased it separately. He accused me of taking scholarship and grant money to go to school even though I never did.

@BlueMetalChick He's probably a racist who assumes because you're from Yemen, you were given an affirmative action scholarship.

In the U.S., the religious right has always been associated with support for slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, and suppression of the civil rights of POC and immigrants.

@LeopoldBloom It's funny because I didn't wanna come to this country since it was an American drone that killed two of my family members, but I was essentially bribed to travel to the United States because I was an astronomy major. And bribery seems like a dishonorable thing to accept when considering my reasons not to but I know goddamn well that it's exactly what my two lost family members would have wanted. Just like it's what I'd want were I to die and one of my relatives to have an opportunity to get money out of it.

@CopperCicada and then he adds insult to insultsl by omitting me! lol!

@CopperCicada and then he adds insult to insult by omitting me! lol!

Sorry, i'dforgotten aboutour angry little atheist fundamentalist @newjaninev2

@Bushranger Bit of a hybrid cross between Mechanical and Chemical. I was a mechanical engineer but I had a lot of chemical work in the processes we were working on. Dirt doesn't yield its oil easily. How do you get the chemicals and steam deep into the ground and have the infrastructure below it to gather the released oil. I was always impressed with the new materials the brains in the metallurgy department came up with to keep the infrastructure from blowing up. A good friend of mine was a forensic engineer and kept busy trying to figure out what failed when the process pressure vessels exploded. Lives were lost and some times entire projects were mothballed as the result.

@hippyjoe1955 Yeah, fascinating field engineering in all its forms. Metallurgists are phenomenal, don't know how they come up with some of their ideas.

@Bushranger A lot of the metallurgists feel the same way. They have no idea where the ideas come from. That being said a lot if it is simple trial and error. When I was going to engineering school we had a machine testing 'sucker rod'. It applied explosive force stretching then compressing over and over again. Testing to see how long each formulation lasted. As the man in charge of the testing explained. "You have to realize that on a mile long rod the bottom of the rod is still going down when the top of the rod is moving up".

Sorry mate but it's you who is ignorant about the nature of science and religion too[CharlieZ]

@Speedyman 🤣

@Speedyman Don´t be sorry else than for yourself.
I have more than enough recognitions along my lifelong academic trayectory because of my published contributions on math (mainly in discrete sets), information theory, computablility, history and philosophy of science.
I´ve worked with Dave Wolpert, William Macready, Mario Bunge and and Gregory Chaitin, among others.
So, your opinions, bad or good, fall short and you have no enough qualifications to even understand my work, at least as based on the poor level of each and all your posts.

On religion, my relationship with God is a strong personal one.
If I don´t need at all to "...see the scars of the nails in his hands and put my finger on those scars and my hand in his side" to believe, why should I need the scarcity of your thoughts for the same?
Moreover, your behaviour here, the way your adjectives try but fail to humilliate your human fellows with your pompous ignorance makes a bad favor to your religious believes and the questionable ethics you are showing us here.
If agreeing with you is taking your example, there is no way it would be a desirable thing to do at all.
Not only in science, even LESS when faith matters.
So, please, make me and others a favor and stop to interact in the faultly way you do.

@Bushranger [quote]has a very white, Euro-central view of the world and society[/quote]
as opposed to what ?

@MarmeeMarch As opposed to all other, non-white, non-Judeo/Christian cultures.

@Bushranger Oh well that clears it up 1000% for me.

@SW-User just telling the truth 😌

@SW-User

@SW-User hey you have chinchillas, that more than makes up for it 🥰

@SW-User He's making a mockery of the whole sacrament!!

@GodSpeed63 No matter how much we may talk, you avoid adressing the specific themata of the debate and to answer about it within science.
So, have the right to your oppinions, but don´t put words as if spoken by Science when they are not.

@CharlieZ I have great respect for science and its interpretation. Science itself is not the issue here. What is the issue is how scientists interprets their discoveries. How they interpret science is what determines the validity of their discoveries. Understand this, no science degree or science award makes the true scientist, what makes the scientist is what's in his/her heart.

@CharlieZ You have just experienced the total limit of his ability to debate the point.

@Starrysky Ah, YES! Thanks for reminding me. I can't remember the the numbers, but there is very little genetic difference between so called racial groups. Thank you for reminding me. It's terrible when you get old and start forgetting things lol.

@Bushranger First violation you called yourself old. No, No Never say that!
You have reached the age of BOLD
REMEMBER THAT!

@Starrysky I'm only about six months off getting the old age pension! I don't mind being called old because I never thought I'd make it this far 😉

@LadyGrace Ah well, looks like I'll never understand, then.

Going to turn in now, but just wanted to share my thought with you. When it comes to God, there’s going to be many things we don’t understand, because of who He is, but I’m not going to let my lack of knowledge, especially when it comes to such a mighty and great God, cause me to miss the main message.

I look at it this way. The separation between God and man occurred because sin separates us from God the Father. That’s a done deal, so now, nothing could be more important than making sure I’ll go to heaven when I die, and I’ve done that. Since I received salvation, I understand the things of the spiritual world much more clearly, having received the Holy Spirit as a Teacher, upon my accepting Jesus as my Savior. It’s not hard at all. Goodnight my friend.


@Bushranger

@LadyGrace I accept your belief, but can't share it. Please have a good night, and we'll chat again soon.

@Bushranger I understand that concern as a science educator. It doesn't come up in an instructional setting often, but when it does I come back to sorting out which tools are for which questions.

@CopperCicada Right!!!

You again miss the point. No-one is saying the Bible has all the answers. It is a sufficient not a complete revelation. It tells us how God created the universe - obvious to any think g man - but he doesn't tell us how we did it. Your problem is that you appear to want to dispense with this obvious fact and tell us something can arise out of something. This contradicts the very science claim to be upholding. But of course atheism is a contradiction in terms anyway@Bushranger

No @Allelse, either it has meaning or no meaning.

@SW-User They got redundant upper management, bleeds off half the kick.

Well I'm afraid your great-grandfathers prejudices have no bearing on what the new Testament says@Starrysky

👍 [b]Thank you!!![/b]@Speedyman

👇@Speedyman @Speedyman 👎

Thanks Charlie. To you, too. 🤗@CharlieZ

Read back what you said. It doesn't make sense. @CharlieZ

@Speedyman Don´t need to.
You are not able to say what makes sense.
Google for it´s meaning.

@SeekingHappiness My friend, you are wrong here.
Science NEVER claims that the knowlege it grasps is neither absolute, complete nor unquestionable.
Who says it is, know nothing about Science and the scientific agenda and attitude.
On the opposite, science provides a local, restricted, provisory description of it´s objects and scientists are and should be fully aware of this.
Though it´s limits, Science is the best provider, tool and path that our species have for knowing the material world we live in.

What makes some people resent on Science is not about Science self recognized limits.
It´s because Science puts enough light to, sometimes, discard our pet believes and the foundations of our wrong statments.

Quoting (not exactly but close enough)Omar Khayyam: There are no absolute truths but there are some evident lies.
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