Science Was Created By God For Our Benefit [Spirituality & Religion]

@SW-User Science doesn't oppose God at all. It points to him but the natural man is opposed to God and tries use science as his weapon. The problem is is that his weapon keeps backfiring on him.

@SW-User Science is indifferent towards claims of magical entities... it simply does not care.

Rubbish! Science is exploring his universe his @SW-User

@newjaninev2 exactly! Why we can use it for exploring the universe which a rational God created. Sadly the atheist does not have that assurance of rationality

@Speedyman @Speedyman You got that right, brother.

@GodSpeed63 ah yeah good point.

@Speedyman [quote]we can use it for exploring the universe which a rational God created[/quote]

Where did the last five words of that come from?

A classic example of begging the question!

Just thought you'd pop that claim onto the end of the sentence, did you? You've shown no evidence that the universe was created, and no evidence whatsoever that your magical entity created it.

@newjaninev2 Do you believe in Aliens?

@SW-User Our galaxy has 100 billion stars, and the visible universe alone has 200 billion galaxies, so I accept the statistical possibility of extra-terrestrial life.

@newjaninev2 So u believe in some fantasided alien entity yet think a god couldn't exist.

@SW-User Life is a self-sustaining chemical system capable of Darwinian evolution. Any such life on a planet other than Earth would be extra-terrestrial life.

I do not know where you're getting 'fantasided alien entity'. Extra-terrestrial life could be absolutely basic (it need not even be cellular in order to qualify), and could be so basic that we might even have trouble identifying it.

As I pointed out, the sheer quantity of stars in the visible universe makes it [i]possible[/i] for a self-sustaining chemical system capable of Darwinian evolution to have formed. That doesn't require me to 'believe' in some or other 'fantasided alien entity'

I don't know what postulations about magical entities have to do with any of this, but you should also note that I have never said that magical entities couldn't exist. In fact, such postulations are unnecessary and unhelpful.

Meh you speak in riddles with Assurance about something you don't really know for postuve about. It's all mostly guess work, this universe

@SW-User [quote]It's all mostly guess work[/quote]

It once was... but we're no longer a bunch of Middle-Eastern goat-herders making up stories to ease our own abject ignorance. These days we operate on evidence and reason.

We no longer need to fool other people... more importantly, we no longer need to fool ourselves.

No we are a bunch of people who are more technically advanced but kid ourselves that the technical advances make us better. And to people like you parade your arrogance as if you are actually better than those goat herders . You make me laugh with your absolute misunderstanding of man's position. A typical atheist . You say we no longer for people but you continue to fool yourself with your delusions. @newjaninev2

@Speedyman Easy brother. Remember, she has no clue of what she's saying even she thinks she does. Remember this, there are no such people that are atheists. As long as they're alive, they'll always believe and always have faith.

@Speedyman Why are you talking about technology when my comment was around understanding and knowledge... understanding and knowledge drawn from evidence, using the scientific method.?

On the other hand, I suppose we could always just make something up and then attack anyone who questioned it.

@GodSpeed63 [quote]always have faith[/quote]

I've asked you this before (several times), but maybe this time you won't run away from it...

1. there's no proof that gods exist (otherwise we'd all be theists)
2. there's no proof that gods don't exist (they might be lurking around a mountain-top somewhere)
3. in any event, there's no compelling necessity to even postulate gods, and the postulation explains nothing... it merely tries to explain everything away.
4. therefore, I have no gods

[b]What part of that requires pretence?[/b]

@Speedyman assuming this God existed, what makes you think he is rational? Especially considering he has, through the entirety of the bible, killed over a million people over minor things like "being Gay". Doesn't seem like this God is very rational at all.

In making statements like that, I assume that you are not rational yourself. I think you had been reading rubbish on the Internet again and a gullible enough to believe it@PikachuTrainer

1. There is of course no absolute proof that God exists but then there is absolutely no proof that God doesn't exist. The only absolute proof we have in this world lies in the realm of mathematics. And it was absolute proof that God exist ed there will be no need for faith. So your first assumption is utterly illogical because the reverse of that is not true anyway .
2. This is the total fallacy of atheism in that you believe that we believe in gods who lurk round a mountaintop or something. The deluded Richard Dawkins appears to believe that. Of course the gods you don't believe in we don't believe another so your point has no point at all .
3. You seem to think that we have a belief in God to explain everything away. That is absolutely untrue. We believe in God because we have a rational universe which is being created by a rational mind and not irrational and unguarded forces. The atheist believes that something created nothing. That is not logic that is irrational thinking. In fact the whole of atheism is based on the irrationality you like to attribute to others.
4. We have no gods either. Just one. The Creator. @newjaninev2

@Speedyman I can make no sense of what you written.

[quote]your first assumption is utterly illogical[/quote]

What assumption is that?

[quote]the gods you don't believe in[/quote]

I haven't mentioned belief... where are you getting that from?

[quote]which is being created by a rational mind[/quote]

Where did that pop up from? What's your basis for such a claim?

[quote]The atheist believes that something created nothing[/quote]

I can't even begin to make sense of that statement

[quote]We have no gods either. Just one[/quote]

So, you have no gods, except that you do? Seriously?

@Speedyman You continue to address the existence or the non-existence of gods.

That's irrelevant.

The point is that there's [i]no compelling necessity[/i] to even postulate gods in the first place.

@AgapeLove Yes, of course... can't promise to be able to help, but there are many well-informed people on here who will probably be able to do so.

@Speedyman everyone on this planet is irrational, just a fact of life, and no unlike your good self I've actually studied the Bible, I don't need the internet when my Mum is a Christian.