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Intelligent design? [Spirituality & Religion]

'Cause it's so intelligent that we have wisdom teeth, a coccyx and an appendix, that whales have leg bones for some reason and that pandas would literally go extinct without us because they've become too lazy to hunt and only eat bamboo even though they're meant to be carnivores...

Even if there's a god that designed nature, he definitely isn't intelligent. 馃槀
suzie196061-69, F
In the beginning, god said "Let there be electromagnetic radiation in the visible part of the spectrum and, while we're about it, let there also be higher energy electromagnetic radiation that will be highly deleterious to the life forms I am about to create." He creates an energy source for us so powerful (385 yotta watts) that we need to stay 150 000 000 km away from it. He makes it omnidirectional too so nearly all the energy is wasted. Not content with that, he makes billions upon billions more of these things and puts them so far away that they're totally useless to us.

Hardly "intelligent design".
Bushranger70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 I could say the same about yourself if i was a Christian with a different belief system. It's an easy allegation to make and attempts to devalue another person's life. Not very Christian of you.
suzie196061-69, F
@GodSpeed63 I can believe you're a christian. Your arrogant, intolerant attitude matches that of the christians I was with and who turned against me when I broke away from christianity. It's also almost exactly how I was before I discovered the truth and broke free.

Getting involved with christianity was the biggest mistake of my life; breaking away from it was the best thing I've ever done.
Bushranger70-79, M
It's been a long time since I read the Bible, so I thought that I'd refresh my memory. Looked at this site: https://www.gotquestions.org/ and got some interesting information about things like the death penalty, war, cloning etc.

I've been against the death penalty for a very long time. I could never understand why a government would pass a law that forbid killing another person and then punish the perpetrator by killing him/her. This was on a purely secular basis, nothing to do with religion, just a contradiction in terms of morality. Now, it seems that a good Christian should support the death penalty, because humans were made in the likeness of God, so killing a human is the ultimate crime. Seems just a little bit contradictory that the perpetrator should then be killed by another human. Wasn't the perpetrator made in God's image?

Killing in a war is fine, provided it is a just war. Ok, I can see that defending your country would probably be considered a just war, but what about all the others? Attacks on foreign countries because they are perceived to have weapons of mass destruction may be considered just, however, what happens when it turns out that it wasn't? Have the soldiers committed a mortal sin?

But I think the most worrying bit was Romans 13. Everyone should submit to the governing bodies, because they are instituted by God. Damn, this is a bit too much. It would mean that all the dictatorships throughout history should have been obeyed blindly. Sorry, can't accept that one.

All in all, there are some things in the Bible that I shake my head in wonder at.
SatanBurger36-40, F
I'd like to mention our waste management systems as well, if we were intelligently created why would we need to poop at all. What designer goes [b]oh I can create these beings any way I want so somehow I'll make them have to pee and poop[/b].

Like what makes a designer think of that from scratch???
samueltyler280-89, M
Religion is a tool to explain the unexplainable.
samueltyler280-89, M
@Emosaur isn't that the point?
@suzie1960 Some people actually do see things that other people can't. They hallucinate the stuff so to speak. I remember reading something about how the place in the brain responsible for spirituality is also critical to logic. The more you look through one of those lens the less you see out the other. That is they say why there is a conflict between religion and science. There is that same conflict built directly into the brain itself and one literally can not see the other one.
https://m.phys.org/news/2016-03-conflict-science-religion-lies-brains.html
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Bushranger70-79, M
It's interesting that the old concept of the watchmaker seems to have been dropped. Also, when irreducible complexity examples are disproved they are dropped from the conversation.

It's probably the closest they will come to science; abandoning hypotheses when they are proven wrong.
GodSpeed6361-69, M
No doubt about it!

 
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